Thread: New Fire Station
05-10-1999, 07:04 PM #1John E MillerFirehouse.com Guest
New Fire Station
We are in the very early stages of designing a new station. We are currently volunteer but can see combination or career staff in the distant future. Any tips or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
05-10-1999, 09:41 PM #2Jim M.Firehouse.com Guest
We spent about 5 years working on our plans. You obviously need to consider your space requirments today and what you believe they will be 10, 20 and 30 years from today. Get statistics from area communities whose 1960 or 1970 census matches your population today. Then, extrapolate. I assume you'll have to sell this to your voters for approval. Keep it simple. Emphasize the low cost per square foot, the flexibility of your design, etc. Avoid lots of little offices, use cubicles if necessary for privacy or temporary non-load bearing walls. It can be fun, especially when all the work pays off. Provide for a room that can be converted to a bunk house if that time comes. Plumb in the basics now. Showers, washer/dryer, etc. Good luck.
PS Just read the message about "going vertical". Be very careful in planning extra floors. Recent ADA (Americans with Disability Act?) rules generally require elevators for access. The "experts" will debate and point out possible ways around the rule, but the bottom line is, if you build it, plan on an elevator, unless a registered architech with professional liability coverage puts his stamp on the plan. Then he can pay for the retrofit when the feds change the intrepretation of the rules.
[This message has been edited by Jim M. (edited May 19, 1999).]
05-17-1999, 01:28 AM #3Drew SmithFirehouse.com Guest
Have been through several station additions/new stations. Here are some random thoughts:
1) Build a basement. Relatively speaking, its cheap space. You can always finish it later.
2) The more concrete block and steel doors the better. Holds up better in stations with large numbers of occupants (FT or vol.)
3) Pitched roof with regular shingles. Cheaper to redo and less likely to leak than a flat roof. A department near us did a high peak and made a storage area over the apparatus floor (it is 100% sprinklered).
4) Make the overhead doors as wide as possible so you are less likely to have backing accidents. Drive-thru bays are best.
5) If your are going to put in lockers and have the space go big (2'w x 2'd). Also consider enough lockers for everyone (FT or vol.). We have a problem with this as we have 70 members and only 30 lockers.
05-17-1999, 09:21 AM #4firefighter60Firehouse.com Guest
After reading Drew's post the only thing I can think to and would be either a hose tower or an electric unit for drying hose after it has been cleaned. We put a hose tower in our station accessed from the apparatus bay. I only takes a 12'X12' area all the way to the ceilling. Well worth the money you would spend on it. If your department doesn't have a large number of runs the hose tower is a lower cost alternative and the hose is dry in about 24 hours. Also makes a good training accessory for industrial type elevations.
05-19-1999, 09:31 AM #5turbotim66Firehouse.com Guest
other things to consider, Going vertical 2nd floor ect. is cheaper than going horizontal. build with offices and dorm space upstairs. as for hose dryers vs hose towers. I work for a dept that has a hose dryer and it is a pain in the a** after a big hose lay. you have to flake out the hose on indiviual racks and it only holds 18 hoses per drying session. then if you don't drain the hoses well enough there is still water in the hose. where a hose tower drains the hose better and lets it dry using the bays natural heat. if you build it right with a stair case around the outside you can also use it for a training tower. that way it can be represented as a hose dryer/training tower. for tax payers they like dual use items. also lots of floor drains with gravel catch pans, saves alot on plumbing repair, this way during bad weather you can still work with water.
the other postings said it well also. look at the future and what you are going to need in 20 years. when you make your plea to the taxpayers mention how you took into account expected growth but don't say how this is all you will need thought. good luck getting it passed. Tim
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