Thread: Unit #'s
09-20-2000, 11:43 PM #51benford1Firehouse.com Guest
In our county, all the departments have a different number. Ours is station 12. Our personnel numbers are all set up the same for simplicity. My number is 1202. That designates I am a captain at station 12 ( the station number comes first, then the designation.) All chiefs and assistant chiefs are designated with a number ending in 1 (01, 11, 21, 31, etc....) Captains with a 2 and lieutenants with a 3.
Our vehicle are numbered by the station and the type. (Engine 12, tanker 12, rescue 12, engine 12-2, engine 12-3, brush 12, squad 12, etc.....)
Our radio language is plain english to keep it simple.
You will find everyone does it different, so whatever works for you guys, do it!
Train hard, Fight hard!
09-22-2000, 01:07 AM #52Kafbfire23Firehouse.com Guest
I am in the Air Force and some regulation states that no truck can be numbered the same but there are brackets such as chiefs and support units are 1-9. crash units are 10-19. Pumpers are 22-25. then we have some supprt trailers that we use that are above that.
09-27-2000, 02:43 PM #53dfc18Firehouse.com Guest
Ours is quite a simple system our Station is 18 our units are as follows
Eng.181 (primary fire suspression structures)
Wildland 182 (Brush Response)
Eng.183 (Second structural Response)
Rescue Eng.5 ( Vehicle Fire and Accidents)
Strike Rig 18 ( Heavy Rescue Command and Support)
Squad 18 bls ambulance
Personnal Numbering System
09-29-2000, 02:59 PM #54truckie1794Firehouse.com Guest
My county assigns a number to each department. Mine is Dept 12. Stations are numbered 121, 122 and 123.
Apparatus is similarly numbered:
Engine 121, Ladder 121, Rescue 121 and Booster 121 are all out of station 121.
Engine 123 and Booster 123 run from station 123.
#12 designates the Chief. Unit 1201, 1202, 1203 and 1204 are the assistant and district chiefs.
Captains are in the 60 series and Lieutenants are in the 70 series, with the last number denoting staions:
Unit 1261 - Captain of station 121
Unit 1273 - Lieutenant of station 123
Every department is set up the same way, so (provided you know your surrounding depts well) you know by the truck/unit # who you are getting. Out of County units refer to their city and truck # i.e. Houston Engine 101.
Take care & stay safe!
09-30-2000, 01:23 AM #55mesilla42Firehouse.com Guest
We try and keep it simple.Our district number is 31
and hopefully soon ladder 31
our personal identification and our chain of command tries to keep it simple also
asst. chief 42
FF's: 61 up to 99
10-01-2000, 03:09 PM #56Colin FraserFirehouse.com Guest
Over here in Edinburgh, Scotland all our stations are numbered and the types of appliances based at them assume the station number then type. The Station Commanders also assume the stations number.
My station is 51 and we have the first pump or Water Ladder/Emergency Tender which is 511, the second pump or Water tender is 512 and finally our Turntable Ladder(100ft) is 513.
All first pumps assume the station number plus one and so on. Other special appliances may assume 4 or 5, such as 364 which is station 36's Heavy rescue tender.
On the subject of codes we use both. Our radio scheme uses the following:-
Status code 1 - mobile to incident
Status code 2 - in attendance
Status code 3 - mobile and available by radio
Status code 4 - closing down home station
Status code 5 - contact via appliance pager
All other messages to our Control Room is by voice. The wife is a Senior Fire Control operator in our control room and tells me of if I sound a bit ***** when she send me onto another rubbish fire!!!
Interesting seeing all the different FD's responses to this.
Stay safe out there
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10-06-2000, 09:56 PM #57One13TruckFirehouse.com Guest
Well I see I'm still mostly in the minority on the codes. But I guess everybody's entitled to their own opinion. What works great somewhere will fail miserably somewhere else, I guess....
Edwardsville Emergency Services, Station 10
We came, we saw, WE KICKED IT'S *****!!!
10-12-2000, 04:59 AM #58BjobelFirehouse.com Guest
The central part of NH is mostly the same as the guys from the seacost described. Every town in the Capital Area Fire Mutual Aid Compact has a two digit ID number (starting at 50), and then the different types of trucks are designated by a letter and a number (X-Rescue, M-Engine, K-Tanker, L-Ladder, etc..) so Bow engine 1 is 52-M1. Also personel are designated by an R and dispense down from R1, the chief. for a full listing of all of this go to http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...1/nhcafmac.htm
Also, the way neighboring systems are numbered in most of the state, you would have to work to get two towns with the same ID on the same incident.
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11-05-2000, 11:52 PM #59TMFirehouse.com Guest
Monrovia FD Station 101 HQ Station 102
We use to be 11 and 12 when we joined onto Verdugo Fire Communications WWW.VFCC.ORG we changed or we would of rolled out every time Burbank Station's 11 and 12 got dispacthed so we are now 101's and 102's
E-101, E-201, E-102, T-102,BC 10, Chief 10, Patrol 101, Utillity 101, SQ 102, SQ 101
11-06-2000, 12:37 AM #60firefighter280Firehouse.com Guest
The way it works with baltimore county volunteer stations is that we have our station number. ours is 280...then your apparatus is the same first 2 numbers but the last number is different. we have engines 281 & 282. utility 283. medic 285. the way the paid stations work is that all their numbers are the same. station 15. engine 15, truck 15, medic 15 etc.
11-06-2000, 12:37 PM #61pipemenFirehouse.com Guest
Hello, Here in Sussex County, N.J. We have a county numbering system each city, town or boro have there own 2 ditigt number like my boro # is 23 we go 23-00'S are the pd's 23-01 ,02 etc 23-100 is fire 23-101 is cheif,23-102 1ast chief 23-121,122,124 etc is the fire trucks 23-300 is ems 23-700 is dpw etc Hope this helps you
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11-06-2000, 05:06 PM #62greendrum872Firehouse.com Guest
My Department is in the 3rd District of Illinois. There are about 22 departments and mine has the numbers 100-199. The numbers go up to 2200-2299.
130-142, officers (Asst. Chief,Lt.s,Capts)
On others third district towns the numbers around 75 are for the private ambulace companies. Ex. "Dolton 1475 is going to the hospial" but in the towns with their own ambulances they have "Calumet City Rescue 311 is en route"
The Box alarms go with the city numbers.
x00-is the medic alarm box
x0x-for fire company response
x99-is for haz-mat
ex.-"Dolton mutual aid to all departments, Tinley Park is requesting box alarm 202,"
then all the departments to respond will go.
I feel it is an excellent system to use.
These are not the opinions of my department.~
11-13-2000, 12:40 AM #63smokeyben1Firehouse.com Guest
Here in New South Wales, Australia the NSW Fire Brigades use a very simple numbering system. As we have about 400 stations in the state they are numbered as such No 8 stn or No 412 stn.The appliances attached to the stations are then called by their station number and appliance type ie: 8 pumper, 8 bronto[hydr. platform] or as for my station 412 pumper, 412 alpha[2nd call pump], 412 composite[w/tanker]. Senior Officers are called by their position ie: Operational Commander[Inspector] south-west, Regional Commander[Assist. Commisioner] north-west etc. Specialist appliances like B.a hazmat trucks are numbered B.a.3 etc, Rescue trucks are called technical support vehcles and numbered as such 1,2,3. The same applies to Incident Command vehicles. Stay safe smokey.
11-13-2000, 01:03 AM #64smokeyben1Firehouse.com Guest
Radio codes for the NSW Fire Brigades are:-
Code 1 : no sign of fire
" 2 : appliance call off[return to stn]
" 4 : small rubbish fire
" 6 : entering Rural Fire Service area
" 7 : appliance responding
" 8 : appliance arrival at incident
" 9 : appliance available to respond
" 10 : malicous false alarm
" 11 : false alarm given in good faith
" 14 : stop given for rubbish or grass fires
" 20 : stop given for spills [oil,fuel]
" 30 : persons trapped,aphysiated
" 50 : Chaplin required
" 95 : Fire Investigation unit required
any further information is added to the relevent code if required. Smokey.
11-23-2000, 11:31 AM #65FISHFirehouse.com Guest
Helo from Australia - Well i just had a look at all those numbers and thought wow ! thats a lot of fire trucks ? We have three units in our brigade : Tatiara car 1, Which is a 4x4 comand vehicle, Keith 24 and Keith 34,
Keith is the name of our town and 24 & 34 stand for 2000 litre four wheel drive and the 34 is a 3000 litre truck. Thats how we identify our selves.
Protecting our community for Life.
11-24-2000, 11:05 PM #66MikellFirehouse.com Guest
Here in my department we use our city police com[pliance number. 474A and 474B are the police, 474F1 and so forth are the fire fighters. F1, F3, F5 are chief officers, F4 is paramedic,F6 and so on are fighters. Our pumpers are simply refered to ta truck 1, truck 2 and so on.
11-26-2000, 04:21 AM #67RDWFIREFirehouse.com Guest
One13Truck, Here in Juneau we number the vehicles by station.
E=Engine, T=Truck, M=Medic unit, U=Utility, R=Rescue, A=ARFF (Aircraft Rescue & FireFighting) Tanker=Well, you get the idea
Juneau station E-11, E-13, T-12, M-1, M-3
Douglas station E-21, E-23, R-21
Glacier Station E-31, E-33, T-32, M-2, M-4, U-31, A-1, A-2, A-3
Auke Bay station E-41, E-42, U-41
Lynn Canal station E-51, Tanker-52
Each area of the USA numbers units according to what works for them. Maybe we will see a "universal" numbering system, but I doubt it. Traditions run strong. Just be familiar with what units run in your area, and if you do wildland firefighting on a large scale, be familiar with ICS numbering, and you should be ok!
On your secon topic about clear text vs codes, I firmly believe that clear text is the only way to communicate on the fireground. There are too many different 10-codes out there and on a large, multi-agency, incident the difference in codes could cost a firefighter's life.
Just my opinion (from experience)
Be safe. The dragon lurks!!!
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01-02-2001, 12:35 AM #68One13TruckFirehouse.com Guest
Great work everybody, keep 'em coming!!! Have a safe and happy new year!!!!
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02-11-2001, 10:55 PM #69flash32Firehouse.com Guest
Here, in Dodge county for sure, each dept is issued a number. my dept's number is 2200. chief is 2201, *** chief is 2202, dep chief is 2203, then followed by all the capt.(04 through 07), then the lieut.(08 through 11), the safety officer is 2212, and then all other personels use thier helmet numbers.
The trucks are refered to as:
2250-2259 can be any ems/firstresponder vehichle
2260-2269 all pumpers
2270-2279 airels (i think)
2280-2289 all brush or equipment trucks
2290-2299 all tankers
the first truck out is the only one that has to call in to the county to let them know that we are on our inservice, enroute, on scene, heading back to station and out of service. Sometimes we use the ten codes and sometimes we don't.
the numbers start at 1100 and go through 3600, leaving out 2000 and 3000. this works very well.
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02-12-2001, 01:59 PM #70mike021Firehouse.com Guest
Delaware County of Pennsylvania here.
All companies are individually numbered as they joined the Del. County Fireman's assoc.
My company, Norwoo, is station 02.
Numbers work like this, the same all through out the county.
1 throgh 4 are pumpers. some say pipeline, or engine so-so
5 is all ladder trucks, also go by ladder, quint so-so
6 is all rescue's also go as rescue so-so
7 is all medic, and BLS ambulance's
8 is special unit's, hazmat trucks, canteen's etc.
9 is all Chiefs
10 through 14 are officers through the company.
If there are multiple units it then goes by letters, like my dept runs 2 BLS ambulance's so it's 02-7 and 02-7a.
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02-15-2001, 12:50 PM #71joelene22Firehouse.com Guest
There are eight fire companies in my township. We are numbered 246 through 253. We also have a fire police company numbered 254. Fire Marshalls are 510, FM1 and FM2.
Our engines are 253 Engine 1, 253 Engine 2, etc.
Chief - 253 C-1
Asst. Chief - 253 C-2
Captain - 253 - C-3
1st Lieutenant - 253 L-1
2nd Lieutenant - 253 L-2
It's pretty basic and easy to follow. The dispatcher just tones out and lists them "247,253,254,510 automatic fire alarm activation..." It saves time and confusion.
Joelene M. Hester
Laurel Gardens Volunteer Fire Company
Station 253, Ross Township
***The above represents my personal views and not those of my fire company***
02-17-2001, 12:05 PM #72ThickSmoke3Firehouse.com Guest
I'm with a volunteer fire dept. They are talking about numbering our trucks. Right now fire dept. has five vehicles and usually we take the same trucks three of them. So numbering might be good, it works better for big cities that have equipment for what every the emergency might be.
02-17-2001, 02:27 PM #73Lt.TimFirehouse.com Guest
Leavenworth County, Kansas, is divided up into townships. Each township fire department is assigned a series of numbers. My department, Delaware Township have 500 numbers. The Fire Chief is 560, Assistant Chiefs,559 & 558, Captain - 557, Lieutenants -556 (me) & 555. The trucks are numbered from 561 to 566. Fairmount Township is assigned 700 numbers, Kickapoo Township is assigned 1700 numbers.So on and so forth for each department, all Chiefs are 60's like 560, 760, 1760. Other officers are numbers in the fifeties as above. The trucks are in the sixties. It is up to each department to number the trucks there is no set disignation for tanker, pumper, or brush truck. The departments work pretty close together and there is a mutual aid association,so when mutual aid is needed all we ask for is a pumper, brush truck, tanker, or aerial.
We are begining an automatic mutual aid system for tanker support. Each automatic call depends on the closest departments in the surrounding area.
Lieutenant/Delaware Township Volunteer Fire Dept.
Firefighter/Fort Leavenworth F.D.
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02-18-2001, 10:25 AM #74ThickSmoke3Firehouse.com Guest
Now Lt. Tim has a valid point.I do not know the size of Leavenworth, Ks.,but their system is what I meant. If you have let's say pumper 561 and tanker 564 and you need just tanker 703 and not a pumper from another dept. That makes sense. You don't need to take equipment that at any given time might be needed in your own area. In rural areas the tanker is king.
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02-18-2001, 01:37 PM #75TriTownship600Firehouse.com Guest
We just started using the county wide system. I thought it was a little complicated at first, but it's nice once you learn it.
Each of the stations have a number 1,2,3,.....11,12 etc.
That is the first digits in their ID.
Next digit will determine when that rig goes. First out, second, etc.
Last digit is the type of rig.
3= Rescue Unit
5= Brush Truck or Mini-Pumper
7= Air, Haz-Mat, Lighting, etc.
8= Ladder/Arial or Quint
9= Chiefs Car
Members of the station are also coded. If the second number is a zero it is a chief officer, If the second digit is a Forty decade it's a captian, Fifty means Lieutenent, Sixty's are engineers, Seventy's, Eighty's and Ninety's are Firefighters.
100 is the Chief of Station #1
6-21 is Engine 2 from Station #6
2-18 is a Ladder from Station #2
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