Light bar VS dash light

[nmfire]

Originally posted by dfdex1
"me got litebarz ireally coolz cuz it so shiny tobad me know not how to put out fire or know a halligan from a hernia cuz me spend to much time looking in galls instead of the essential of ff book!"

I dont think explorers/jr.s should have them.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Unfortunately you are right in many cases. To all those touchy ones, notice I did not say ALL THE TIME.

[smatt2003]

i aggree i think that it would make explorers feel to high and mighty even thought their response isn't a high class priority.

[tshayes]

I just have to say one thing. To say that a junior is not a high class priority is foolish. Heres one example. Your at a house fire and your inside doing the fun stuff and then you get into trouble. In comes the rit team. THe person outside the building taking out the window and setting up the rigging is a junior from the rit teams department. He is also the one who will lower your dieing butt to safety. I will admit that I like having a blue flashy thing. Every person can play a crucial role on the scene on the world of volunteers when we are always tring to get man power for help.

[FIREFIGHTER22JP]

I agree with tshayes... That post by dfdex1 is ridiculous. Pretty much just saying all juniors care about are their warning lights. Thats totally not true. I got one thing to say to all you firefighters that don't show respect for juniors. Next time your on a fire scene and your stuck hitting a hydrant or doing exterior work when you'd rather be inside, remember what you said about Juniors. Us Juniors could be doing your exterior work and hydrant work while your inside fighting the fire. That's how it is out here. The juniors are highly repsected and nobody makes fun of us or worries about us having lights unless we drive wrecklessly or whatever. I've never done that. To me, a blue light is a courtesy light. People don't have to give you the right of way. It's their decision and I never assume the right of way. I also understand a blue light doesnt give me the right to speed, thus I do the speed limit and I stop at all stop signs because once again, having a blue light doesnt mean I can go through em. So think twice before you bash us juniors again.

Export V.F.D.

[tshayes]

FIREFIGHTER22JP

SPEAK THE GOOD WORD MY BROTHER

[ff_1361_ovfd]

Why in the world do juniors need lights?

Matt

[HFRH28]

I have a deckblaster on my back glass and a dashlaser on my dash. That is the cheaper and better alternative to a light bar. I do not run lights en route to calls. The only purpose of lights in my book is for your personal protection once on scene. Lights may not save time, but they sure can save your life on the scene of an MVA. Your safety is more important once on scene, than the amount of time it takes you to get there. The only reason i would see to get a light bar is if you do lots of time sitting on the side of the road at MVAs or anything else around traffic. Otherwise, I don't see a need for one.

[HFDEXP777]

Originally posted by ff_1361_ovfd
Why in the world do juniors need lights?

Matt

oh god, here we go again...

[tshayes]

I do not believe that juniors have to have lights but if the "CHIEF" of their department condones it I see no problem in it as long as they are able to use them resonsibly. Juniors atleast in my department can do almost everything but enter a burning building and some other ultra hazardous stuff. People need to stop bashing juniors and lights and think about the fact that at the firsdt house fire you have had in months you are sitting at the hydant with a radio freezing your bum off instead of fighting fire. Guess who could have been there in place of you. Could it be. A JUNIOR. If a junior wants to run a bluelight that is fine. As long as he is responsible. I dont think that there is a single person out there that can say that every senior member with a blue light is as mature as a junior. In my department that means an age difference of a 17 year old compared to an 18 year old. A junior is still a firefighter no matter how you look at it unless he is in an explorer program from the boyscouts. Then he is not worth a blue light due to the strict rules governing them. WE ARE NOT PART OF THE BOYSCOUTS. We are the same as a probationary firemen. You want to run blue then fine. As long as everyone does it in a safe matter. We know that a blue light is only a COURTESY LIGHT. For me I have more training than some of our new members who just because they are senior members can run a blue light. If you want the names of the courses I have taken just say so.

[nmfire]

Someone needs to disconnect the compressor line from your nose. I think your head is getting too big. If anyone ever came into my post with that attitude, we would be in the office having a little chat.

[tshayes]

This is not your department so what goes on around us is what we see. Where you are I have no clue on what happens. Here a junior is just like a probationary firemen with a few more restrictions such as time they can go on calls and be at the fire house.

[CoolDre]

Originally posted by smokeeater51
Remember, all of the whirlygigs that we vollies put on our vehicles are just "courtesy" lights. No one is required by law to pull over and stop for volunteers responding to the station.

That varies by state. In Kentucky, POVs are considered emergency vehicles and motorists must yield right of way to us

[tshayes]

(THESE VIEWS ARE JUST THAT; VIEWS NO NEED ON BEING REPRIMANDED)I like the idea kentucky has. Why is it that we have to be non emergency vehicles when we are trying to save a persons life. Only after taking 3-6 minutes to get to the station can we go wirly giging down the streat in a big red truck. Every minute counts whether it be a ems call of a serius nature or a possible house fire. If your respoinding to the station as a firefighter or anything emergency related where you are not a paid person then you should not have to sit at red lights and wait while the person is having a heart attack or somthing. What if it was your relative. Wouldnt you want the fastest reponse.

[CoolDre]

I agree with you. You should write your congressman and let him know how you feel. A petition would also help your effort. They are put there to represent the people who voted them in, not their own beliefs. If enough taxpayers/voters raise the awareness that this needs to be done he or she will most likely consider it. You could do an online potition, and put a link to it here. You could also get the FFs in your Dept. to sign, as well as people in your district. They want the fastest response time they can get. It may just come down to nothing being done about it untill the lawmakers are affected personally. First time their house catches on fire and the dept members have to fight traffic to get to the dept, then make it there, they'll sure do whatever they can to reduce reaction time.

[tshayes]

Thankyou heres the site. Get as many people as you can to poll. I will tell all of my people on here.
http://cms.firehouse.com/forums2/sho...threadid=43496

[guardo83]

You may wnat to check your local/state laws. My state declares that it must be roof mounted, sure you can have all the rest of it, as long as something is roof mounted. on a car i think anything on the roof looks retarded. but i've got a mini LED bar on mine cuz i can't get away with anything on the dash/visor

[Remthedays]

You may wnat to check your local/state laws. My state declares that it must be roof mounted, sure you can have all the rest of it, as long as something is roof mounted. on a car i think anything on the roof looks retarded. but i've got a mini LED bar on mine cuz i can't get away with anything on the dash/visor

Do you think after 5 yrs they have figured it out guardo83.

T.J.

[FWDbuff]

-Here's a suggestion.......How about no lights at all?

And another one- check the dates of the postings before you add a reply.....You never know (well, you would if you checked the date) when the thread or subject has been hashed out over and over again to the point that no one cares anymore........

[jrscvfs]

In response to the question of which light, i like the mini phantom from galls, but thats not from my use. Our ffs dont run lights on povs(not sayin its wrong or right) but our first responders run the mini phantoms, very nice!!

[ndvfdff33]

Do you think after 5 yrs they have figured it out guardo83.

T.J.

Some people will do anything for a post sometimes I guess.


Maybe he just wanted to feel special talking about lights too.