Leaving school to answer the Box?

[tbonetrexler]

Going to agree with Jake on this one, at 16 I was entering the burn building at the Delaware state fire school, and I was not the only 16 year old in the class.

[NWOhio157]

Jake do you know where I can get a copy of the Firefighter I-A (Volunteer Firefighters). I am asking because there are some rural, and I mean rural FD's that thier members do not (For the most part) have time for the full FF1/2 classes. I am looking to put something together in the 30 - 40 hr range to get them the very basics to get them some type of training. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks
T.J.

Not trying to take Jake's spotlight or anything... but I take the state 36 Hour test in the morning...
Very briefly, here's a list of what we covered in the class. As Jake said, there's a lot that should be included in the basic 36 hour course but they don't include it.
-History of the Fire Service
---Self Explanatory
-FF Qualifications and Safety---Age, Medical, Physical, and Education Requirements
---Injury Prevention ---PPE
-IMS/NIMS
-Fire Behavior
---Fire Tet/Triangle ---Chemistry and Products of Combustion
---Heat Transfer (conduction, convection, radiation)
---Classes of Fire ---Phases of Fire
Building Construction
---Types of Materials
---Types of Construction
---Bulding Components (Foundation, Floors, Ceilings, Roofs, Trusses, Walls, ect.)
-FF Tools and Equipment
---Functions, Uses, and Maintenance
-Forcible Entry
---Tools ---Doors, Windows, Locks
-Ladders
---Types ---Components ---Uses ---Safety ---Service Testing
-Search and Rescue
---Coordination ---Primary vs. Secondary ---Techniques
-Ventilation
---Tools ---Building Construction Considerations ---Priorities ---Types
---Techniques ---Backdraft and Flashover Considerations
-Fire Hose, Nozzles, Streams, and Foam
---Fire hydraulics ---Hoses (functions, types, sizes, construction, couplings)
---Hose Care/Maintenance ---Hose Appliances (wyes, siamese, thiefs, adaptors)
---Hose Rolls ---Nozzles ---Foam (Classifications, Concentrates, Equipment)
-Salvage and Overhaul
---Lighting ---Techniques to prevent water, heat, and smoke damage
---Overhaul techniques/tools

That's all we cover in Ohio for the Basic 36 Hour Course

[KEEPBACK200FEET]

Good luck on your test, bro. Just go with your gut. These types of exams aren't hard if you read the question thoroughly and think about it. I'm sure you'll do fine.

[jacklrd]

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-History of the Fire Service
---Self Explanatory

You spelled Self Explanatory wrong, its spell like this :(Self Explanatory)

[KEEPBACK200FEET]

You spelled Self Explanatory wrong, its spell like this :(Self Explanatory)

You spelled "spelled" wrong.

[NWOhio157]

Good luck on your test, bro. Just go with your gut. These types of exams aren't hard if you read the question thoroughly and think about it. I'm sure you'll do fine.

KeepBack... PM coming.

[KEEPBACK200FEET]

10-4.........

[CadetFF22]

I think if it is big fire then yes. Other than that I think it' s up to you and your dept. because you can learn on scene to.

[backsteprescue123]

Remthedays,


Here is something I pulled off of our state's website.........


I'll PM it to ya too incase you arent even reading this..........(why am I typing this anyways????)


http://ems.ohio.gov/Firefighter%20Tr...ffVOLOBJ~1.pdf

[Remthedays]

Remthedays,


Here is something I pulled off of our state's website.........


I'll PM it to ya too incase you arent even reading this..........(why am I typing this anyways????)


http://ems.ohio.gov/Firefighter%20Tr...ffVOLOBJ~1.pdf

I got your PM, and yes I read it. Thanks alot.

T.J.

[rtrudeau]

People leave school for "Technical Training" at training programs around town like carpentry and electronics. Why should Jr. FF's be any different? Its on the job learning experience and probably a hell of alot more useful information then Advanced Lit. or Economics

"Technical Training" is usually part of a curriculum at the school. These students usually get credit for going to the class or an internship, and it isn't usually durring another class, ie: english or math, its a seperate program. I agree that Juniors should have an opportunity to get credit in school for learning to be a firefighter, but it needs to be set up as a vocational class or an internship that doesn't interfere with the standard curriculum guidelines.

Perhaps your school district could discuss adding a voc. class for firefighting, including your FF I/II, HAZMAT Awareness and Ops, etc... With the program including an internship with your dept. for the last hour of your school day, or after school hours, requiring you to spend x amount of hours in a productive training environment to include going out on fire runs. The problem that they run into is the hazardous working environment in which FFs are often placed. You cannot be expected (if under 18) to work in (and the US gov't has laws against minors working in) hazardous atmospheres. State governments usually have laws that are more strict than the US gov't in these areas.

Juniors should definitly NOT be able to leave class for a fire run unless they serve a CRITICAL life safety role on scene. If that is the case (which it should never be), your FD should be fixing their staffing problems.