01-02-1999, 04:20 PM #1bgilmore07Firehouse.com Guest
"On the Quiet" / Reduced Response
I am looking for SOG/SOP's on when to respond to calls at non-emergency speed. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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01-03-1999, 09:48 AM #2Allen SiorekFirehouse.com Guest
Our dispatch center determines whether or not we respond emergency or not, though we can upgrade our response if we feel it's necessary.
Basically, if there is not the potential for loss of life or property , than we respond non-emerg, eg. illegal burns, trash fire without exposures, service calls for the police departments...
01-03-1999, 07:38 PM #3dcnytrauma buffFirehouse.com Guest
Hello, I'm from Dutchess County NY, (Apx. 50 miles N. of NYC) In or county we have a County based dispatch who handles calls for apx. 45 deptartments with such a large responsiblity the dispatchers have little responseability in how Emergency Veh. respond. So each ind. dept. has thier own rules. Most calls are a code 3 response (Lights & Sirens). If PD or a member of that department is on scene, they can order thier eqiupment to respond in code 1 (Normal driving) In my fire dept. things like pump details would aoutmaticly be a code 1 resp. In my Amb. Corp if we get called to respond to a structure fire, unless there's a confirmation of inj. that is a code 1 response (90 % of those calls are false anyway!
That is just some of our info on response, of course theres alwways alot of other rules.
01-04-1999, 09:55 PM #4cwernerFirehouse.com Guest
There are many departments that are reducing their responses. I believe one such department in a previous article St. Louis was mentioned with all of the reductions they made. They noted, as memory serves, a 10% reduction in apparatus related accidents.
In addition, some departments are allowing only the first due engine to respond under emergency conditions to calls like fire alarm activations and the like unless backed up by a telephone call or confirmation of fire. All other responding units drive under normal conditions.
Many departments are looking at previous policies. Where we used to respond emergency to all CO calls, we have reduced responding under emergency conditions to only calls where people are experiencing CO poisoning conditions like illness, etc. or where people are unconscious. This following the guidelines as recommended by the IAFC Guidelines on CO Related incidents.
Also, service calls that were normally run as emergency by tradition, are now downgraded unless there is some sort of property damage or life endangered.
Its not always easy to take the "fun" out the responses.
01-05-1999, 10:39 PM #5Spfd32Firehouse.com Guest
Our district is divided by an interstate with a station on each side. For automatic alarms the station on the side of the alarm responds Lights/sirens. The other station responds on the quiet unless upgraded by the OIC or first truck on the scene. That way the equipment is moving in the right direction minus the "rush".
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01-09-1999, 09:00 AM #6rickyFirehouse.com Guest
We are a small suburban department north of Houston. We have been running "still alarms" non emergency for approx. 10 years. All alarms, ground cover fires, dumpsters, smell of ? outside of structures,ect are run non emergency with the option of upgrading left up to the officer should conditions require. Basically any incident that doesn't involve "real property" is a non emergency response. Our residential dollar loss was only $61,000 in 1998 and our total structure loss including residential and commercial structures was only $91,000 for 1998. 15% of our responses are fire alarms so as you can see we do a lot of "stealth responses". Many times if traffic permits we run car fires non emergency." Why should a fire be an emergency to a Fire Department" - heard the one from Alan Brunacini once - it kinda makes sense.
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01-19-1999, 12:29 AM #7fire550Firehouse.com Guest
ESIP, our FD's insurance provider has a great video and training package on QT response that references ST. Louis FD & others that have lowered the risk of accident by the QT response - We're now using it, only the old heads have been the problem, wanting to argue every call....typical.
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