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    Default Staffing Level Info Needed

    I need staffing levels from your department, ie. Engines,Trucks, Ambulances, etc.

    I also need the size of you community and the number of stations.

    Also I need to know if your department is a Public Safety Dept. ( cross-trained Police officers as Firefighters ).

    My depatrtment is grossly understaffed and we (the FF's) are working on a plan to present to our City Gov't to increase FF's.

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    How about NFPA 1710?

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    I believe that you can get that information from the IAFF. They have tons of info from studies they have done that is there for the asking (if your department has an IAFF affiliation)to prevent you from having to go try and gather it all yourself.
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    NFPA 1710 is a good resource for staffing level, but our city has not adopted it and our chief went out to vote against it. We are trying get the city to go to that staffing level, but you know city and their monies. Its hard for them to let loose with it.Any ideas and info appreciated..
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    Savannah, Ga. 135,000 pop. 11 sta/ 12 under construction.
    11 Engines - minimum staffing is 3 on 6 engines. 4 on 5 engines.These 4 are busy centrally located engines and 1 is the main Hzmt eng.

    3 Trucks - minimum 3 sometimes 4.
    2 Rescue Squads - (Heavy rescue) - 3 sometimes 4.
    2 Battalion Chiefs and 1 safety officer per shift.

    NO EMS or FIRST RESPONDER CALLS on a regular basis, we do assist as requested.
    Minimum staffing is 56 on duty. we have 73 assigned per shift.
    The new station will have a 75' quint assigned in a newly annexed area, due to the remoteness from the rest of the city it will have 6 person staffing at ALL TIMES. we are an ISO class 2 city covering approx. 70 sq.miles and are the only fully paid dept. in a 50 mile radius.

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    Plainfield, IN
    pop 20,000-30,0000
    2 Stations
    Staffing
    Engines Mininmum is 2 Max is 4
    Trucks Mininmum is 2 Max is ?
    Ambulances
    Min/Max is 2 (One medic always)

    I have found that our staffing will probably one day get someone killed.
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    City of Bayonne (NJ) Fire Department

    1. Seven (7) Fire Houses
    2. Seven (7) Engine Companies
    3. Three (3) Ladder Companies
    4. Two (2) Battalion Chiefs per shift (4 shifts,42 hour workweek)
    5. 70,000 residents in 3 square miles
    6. 1 Officer and 3 firefighters per apparatus

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    14 firehouses
    13 engines, 6 ladders, 5 medics, 4 bls
    2 battalion chiefs
    130000 population
    1 officer and 3 ff's each apparatus

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    28 sq miles
    100,000 population, suburban with light industrial
    Fire Suppression - 69 FF/ 23 per shift
    4 stations (fifth planned)
    4 engine cos
    2 truck cos-crossman rescue trucks
    1 BC
    1 Dispatcher
    3 per rig min
    7000 runs per year, incl 70% BLS medicals
    May go for a tax increase next year to fund ALS, fifth station, and 4 man ride (1710 compliance)

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    ashes,

    Check your e-mail. I hope the information helps. The first document is on legal size paper the other 2 are not.

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    Approx. 38,000 population-Urban setting
    4 Stations
    4 Engines- 3 min. staffing
    1 110'tiller-4 min.staffing
    1 ALS ambulance 2 min. staffing
    1 Batt. Chief
    100% Career

    Most EMS calls are handled by a Vol/Paid Rescue Squad in our city. Fire dept. staffs another ambulance to handle call overload. Engine sent on all "life threatening calls"
    We handle approx. 5,000 calls annually. Approx. 60% fire- 40% EMS.

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    City Population: 100000
    Number of Sta: #3
    Dept Status: Public Safety Fire/EMS/Police
    Calls a year: 6800
    Batt Chief: 01
    Engines: Min 02
    Rescue/Ambulance Min 02
    Truck: Cross manned
    Hazmat: Cross manned
    Extrication: Cross manned
    Brush Truck: Cross manned


    We augment on larger incidents with PSO officers(cross trained) and call back.I think our min daily City wide Staffing is 13.
    We run pretty thin on too many occasions.



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    Not representing the St Paul FD, MN

    16 Stations
    18 Engine Co. 4 man staffing
    7 Truck Co. 4 " "
    2 Squad Co. 5 " "
    2 Hazmat Co. (manned by Squads)
    11 ALS Medic Rigs(manned by 11 of the Eng Co)
    3 District Chiefs
    1 Deputy Chief
    Rope Rescue Unit (manned by E-1)
    3 Boats (manned by E-9,E-15,E-19)
    Utility Unit (air unit manned by E-1)
    Also the 7 truck co and the 7 non duel response engine co are commenly staffed with 3 men.

    St Paul FD
    55 sq miles
    287,000 pop.
    IAFF Local 21
    400 Firefighters

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    Norfolk Fire-Rescue
    Norfolk, Virginia

    Population: 240,000
    Size of Department: 483 uniformed positions, fully paid
    IAFF Local 68
    Square miles: 55
    Fire Stations: 15

    On-Duty Staffing

    Engine Companies: 14 (1 Captain, 3 FF's)
    Ladder Companies: 7 (1 Lieutenant, 2FF's)
    Heavy Squads: 2 (1 Captain, 2 FF's)
    Ambulances: 10 (1 FF/ALS, 1 FF/BLS)
    Battalion Chiefs: 3 (1 BC & aide per unit)
    Assistant Chief: 1 (Shift Commander)

    Also, 2 Boat Units (manned by ladder companies)

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    Ashes,

    Here in Cincinnati our staffing is as follows

    Engine - 4
    Truck - 4
    Squad (Heavy Rescue) - 4
    BlS Amb - 2
    ALS Amb - 2

    It is specified in our contract that all fire companies shall have a minumum of 4 members at all times. We acheived that about 3 years ago even before 1710.

    We have 26 stations which include 26 enignes 12 ladders 5 bls and 4 als transport units.

    Pop. is about 365,000
    land is 77.2 sq miles
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    Franklin, Indiana
    Population over 25,000
    2 stations
    minimum staffing for Departmentis 8 people.
    Engine minimum of two
    Ambulance minimum of two
    Squad minimum of two
    Truck (You mean we should actually use that thing?) minimum of 1.
    Try fighting a commercial fire with that!!!
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    Check NFPA fire protection handbook, there is also information on recommended staffing besides 1710

    City of Dearborn Heights (MI)
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    12 sq miles
    Minimum of 10 on duty a day, Max of 14
    24 hour shifts
    48 in suppression

    2 engines 3 ff each
    2 als squads 2 ff each (3 manpower permitting)
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    Iron Mountain Fire Dept. Iron Mountain Michigan

    Population: 8,000
    Square Miles: approx 8
    Stations: 1
    Engines: 2
    Staff: 14 paid career ff, not PSO no supplimental staffing
    Minimum 4 man staffing at all times in our contract
    Three shifts, Two 5 man crews, One 4 man crew
    No ems at this time

    City is currently looking to reduce us to 12 or 13 members

    hope this helps,
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    Fishers, Indiana

    Population: 50,000 +
    Career, Part-Time, Volly
    4- Stations
    4- ALS ENG CO. - 3 min
    2- BLS AMB. - 2 min
    1- Heavy Rescue - (If staffing at station 1 is at 6, usually because of vacation or light duty, then either the rescue or ladder goes, call dependent one is left behind) otherwise 3 min.
    1- Ladder - 3 min. unless above condition exists.
    1- BC - 1 min

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    Burlington, Vermont pop. 50,000 plus 4 colleges
    IAFF local 3044
    aprox. 5,000 runs a year
    5 stations
    5 engines E-1,2,4 min 3
    E-3,5 min 2
    1 tower unit, min 2
    1 rescue, 2 EMT-I
    1 BC
    23 per shift, 18 min

    FM office, 3 day personel
    Training, 1 day personel
    Asst chief, day
    Chief Engineer, day

    Currently working to add another Rescue and 6 Firefighter/EMT's

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    Reno FD, Nevada

    Pop. approx. 225,000
    (includes county areas post consolidation)

    16 Stations another in planning
    17 Engines 4 minimum manning
    4 Trucks 4 minimum sometimes 5
    1 med. Rescue minimum 2

    These numbers are contractual.

    Alot of stations have brush rigs, tenders, boats and Hazmat which are crossed staffed up to two hours at which time callback is done. We do BLS and EMT I but do not transport.

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    Population 32,000
    Roughly 10 square miles
    3 fire stations
    3 engines mostly 2 sometimes 4
    3 MICU always 2
    1 tower somtimes 2, somtimes 4, somtimes none
    1 buggy
    33 Captains/Lts/FF/Medics Career
    45 Part time
    If the MICU goes out on a call we run our fire apparatus with 2, hahahahaha! I too am waiting for something drastic to happen with poor manning?
    No police and fire mixed.

    This is the truth, however this does not reflect the views or opionons of my employer or family.

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    Cherry Hill Fire Department
    Cherry Hill, Camden County, New Jersey
    Population: approx. 75,000
    Mix of mostly Residential, w/ both highrise office and resdidential bldgs. Industrial, commercial, and a full enclosed mall.

    5 Stations
    3 Engines ( 4th in budget for 2002)
    2 Trucks (one tower one stick)
    1 Battalion chief
    1 Heavy Rescue (staffed by crew from engine 3)

    All companies have 5 members assigned each day. A minimum of 4 must be at work each day. And we must have at least five companies staffed each day. We have all of our staffing requirements written into our contract for our own protection, and to ensure that the Department can't close houses due to sick outs or lack of staffing. Hope this helps, good luck

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    Spokane Fire Department
    Not a Public Safety Dept.
    Population of Spokane 190,000
    56 sq. mi.
    14 Stations

    9 engines 3 personel
    2 Engines 4 personel
    3 Pumper/Ladders (Quints) 4 personel
    3 Ladders 4 personel
    (note: Engine and Ladder 2 are cross staffed by the same 4 people due to budget cuts)
    1 Rescue 2 personel (mostly a support unit w/ Extrication)
    3 PM squads 2 personel (non-transport at this time)
    Brush rigs, Haz Mat, Tech Rescue, Water Rescue all cross staffed.

    20,000+ incidents per year including BLS and ALS.

    We feel understaffed at this level.

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    St John's Regional Fire Dept.
    Newfoundland Canada
    Pop served @ 200,000
    Stations 7
    6 career , 1 composite
    Carrer Staffing- 220
    7 Pumpers- 1 Captain , 3 f/f per vehicle
    3 Rescues- 1 LT , 1 Paramedic per vehicle
    2 Aeriels- 1 LT , 1 F/F per vehicle
    1 4X4 Pick-up w/portable pumps- 1 F/F
    1 Haz-Mat Unit, unmmaned
    1 Snorkel , unmmaned
    Our Staffing level currently stands at 40 per shift, (down to 35 before they call anyone in)

    IAFF Local 1075

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