As a long-time scanner enthusiast, I know that there are several sites on the web that cover scanner laws state-by-state.
Anybody know of a similar site on lights? If there isn't, it would take a bit of research, but might prove informative. Even bona fide emergency vehicle lighting requirements vary somewhat around the country. Only California requires a steady-burning red facing front, and NY now allows a blue light facing the rear, f'rinstance.
Does any body know the Alabama rules on lights??
Anything but purple and gold.
Originally Posted by BurninLuv
Originally Posted by BurninLuv
Everything you need to know.
Short answer - no you can't.
Way to many pages to read through so if someone already posted this then my apologies. Here in NY Chiefs and Assistant Chiefs can run red lights and sirens w/ white if they want it. everyone else including capt's and lieut. can run blue lights w/ no siren, but they can have one red light facing the rear. For the most part everyone uses all blue. FF's can have white as well, but still thats up to them
Originally Posted by Mr. D.
Originally Posted by BVFD_LT2
Don't come through Virginia with the blue light bar or dash light visible and let the LEO's catch you.
Actually, I drove all the way to Lynchburg and back a couple of times with no hassles whatsoever, blue light and all. Now that I've got all LED lights, it's no sweat anyhow. I look just like any other contractor.
Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer
Of course, now some bozo pulls someone over for speeding with his POV...
NY- FF= BLUE
EMS = GREEN
CHIEF OR Certified Medical cars (EMT-I) or better, Red with Siren.
its suppose to be just 1 bulb that's visible 360 all the way around, but, I haven't met one officer who enforces it.
And 32 candlepower, to boot. But that's only the blue and green lights.
Originally Posted by thefentch
Chiefs, etc, can run pretty much anything they want in terms of quantity and brightness (red and white), and can now have a rear facing blue as well...
On the real tho... If I was a chief officer who responded directly to the scene before apparatus.. A pee can and some irons would be a good addition.
Originally Posted by FWDbuff
I shouldn't post to this thread but jsut an FYI....
if you are ever in KY and you see the blue lights blaring behind you, you best pull over. The State boys (Troopers) don't take kindly to people not pulling over for them. And for any vollie guy coming from a state where blue lights are used for fire service, your lights better not be visible because you can get a ticket. blue lights are reserved for police only in KY.
well that wont be a issue for me sence i dont think theres blue lites here for fire
I agree with your statement, it is legally NOT our right to take the right of way. We can honk all we want through an intersection in a rig, stutter or air horn, go "whoop", yelp, shout, pulse the fire engine pedal siren, and flash head lights, use the P.A., or have red, green, or blue lights, or those rig colors. When speaking with my Career Center teacher, here in Columbia MO, where I attend a local Fire Department Explorer Prorgram, he stated, as a retired firefighter from Rolla MO, if in any accident, it is our fault. Well, I suppose more appropriatly, since I am only a student, the department's fault. Unless the wrecked vehicle the rig hit, or any other fire vehicle, broke a traffic law. Which is rare to win considering how large of a corporation the F.D. can be. Yet you would think, something that attention grabbing, is never considered on the road; I have seen near misses twice now when out on the town.
You just described half the pick-ups in northern New York... And I'm not talking about firefighters...
Originally Posted by FWDbuff
In Virginia we are aloud only 2 lights anywhere on the vehicle and can be red/white or stright red. the rear lights if you choose to get them, must be stright red. You are not aloud to speed or break any traffic laws and people are not required to move. No sirens either. The Dept I run out of says in bilaws you arnt aloud to go stright to the scene unless you are chief so they aren't really needed. They more or less a luxury if you want to get there a bit faster. Remember you are not aloud to break laws so you look kinda dumb sitting at a red light and they can confuse people. I have them on my vehicle but only use them if im on a back road or if im in heavy traffic helping a disabled vehicle.
Hope i helped Stay safe!
In NY, we run blue lights. Its a courtesy to have them. My department adheres to 1 light per vehicle and must be issued a card. The lights are used when there is a structure fire, MVA or if there is smoke showing. Not when there is a natural gas odor, CO detector activation, fire alarm. We turn off our blue lights at intersections we must stop at. We only use them on straight aways to avoid confusing the public. We have to, by State law, follow all NYS traffic laws, so there is no reason to speed, not stop at lights or signs or pass people. Mathematically, you're not going to get there that much faster. And if you drive like an adrenaline idiot, you chance getting into a crash and not only not being able to help at a scene, but you will demand man power. Coolness is your meal ticket.
Hey brother, thought I might give you a little clarification ... you can have up to two red, red/white, or white lights, and you're not restricted on having white to the rear. Furthermore, nothing in the code actually defines what a "light" is.
Originally Posted by firefightislife
Take a look: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...+cod+46.2-1024
Hope this helps...
I realize that this thread has been here for some time, but I wish to add the following.
In 2009 Illinois Law regarding the use of blue lights for volunteer fire and EMS changed. Here is the law direct from the IL Rev. Statutes.
(625 ILCS Sec. 12-215)
Oscillating, rotating or flashing lights on motor vehicles. Except as otherwise provided in this Code:
Subsection c States:
(c) The use of blue oscillating, rotating or flashing lights, whether lighted or unlighted, is prohibited except on: 1. Rescue squad vehicles not owned by a fire department and vehicles owned or operated by a:
voluntary firefighter; paid firefighter; part-paid firefighter; call firefighter; member;paid or unpaid member of a rescue squad; paid or unpaid member of a voluntary ambulance unit
Sec. 12-601. Horns and warning devices.
Subsection b States: (b) No vehicle shall be equipped with nor shall any person use upon a vehicle any siren, whistle, or bell, except as otherwise permitted in this section. Any authorized emergency vehicle or organ transport vehicle as defined in Chapter 1 of this Act may be equipped with a siren, whistle, or bell, capable of emitting sound audible under normal conditions from a distance of not less than 500 feet, but such siren, whistle or bell, shall not be used except when such vehicle is operated in response to an emergency call
Sec. 11-907. Operation of vehicles and streetcars on approach of authorized emergency vehicles.
(a) Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle making use of audible and visual signals meeting the requirements of this Code or a police vehicle properly and lawfully making use of an audible or visual signal,
(1) the driver of every other vehicle shall yield the
right-of-way and shall immediately drive to a position parallel to, and as close as possible to, the right-hand edge or curb of the highway clear of any intersection and shall, if necessary to permit the safe passage of the emergency vehicle, stop and remain in such position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, unless otherwise directed by a police officer
"Authorized emergency vehicle" includes any vehicle authorized by law to be equipped with oscillating, rotating, or flashing lights under Section 12-215 of this Code, while the owner or operator of the vehicle is engaged in his or her official duties.
The above explains quite clearly the use of blue lights, and that such volunteer
vehicles are deemed as 'Authorized Emergency Vehicles' while responding to a
There is even a subsection under 11-907 that also mandates that any vehicle
that is approaching a stopped vehicle displaying blue lights is to yield the road/
or lane to that emergency vehicle, and to pass only if completely clear at a slow
speed, or to stop.
This new law is a far cry from what it used to be, in which blue lights meant next to
nothing other than something flashing. All traffic laws had to be obeyed. Personally, I am pleased that the law changed.
For those that don't like this type of law, they should remember that we could be
responding to their serious, and life-threatening problem, and would they want us
to take our time? They should also know that no volunteer has the right to operate
his lights (even the allowed wig-wag headlights, or siren if he has one) if not responding to a call, or actually on the scene of an emergency. The penalties for
this type of violation are severe.
The requirements on any lights for Firefighters and EMS personal vehicles are usually codified in state statutes and vehicle traffic regulations. Since there are 50 different states, there are probably 50 different sets of statutes and regulations.
Originally Posted by tree68
To find out your laws and regulations for your state, I would contact your state fire chief and firefighter associations. They may already know. If not, have your fire chief contact the local highway patrol office and request a written list of requirements.
In my experience over the many years in both fire and police services, I
have found that many of the fire and police do not know the specifics
of the law that well. Most of the thinking is guess, or of older habits.
The best way to find out the law in your state(s) is to either look up
the statutes online as most states have them available that way, and
many have them available in the DMV websites. Otherwise, go to your
DMV and ask for the info, and finally, go to your local library and get
the current published statutes. No law anywhere goes into effect until
it has been published for all to see. You probably cannot remove those
books from the library, but you can copy anything you need.
North Carolina FF/EMS Red no Siren. The Chief may have a siren.