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    Quote Originally Posted by FLFD138 View Post
    New Jersey DMV Hand book states that Blue & White Lights,electric horns and sirens are leagle to have how ever the police will give you a hard time about the sirens and horns!!!
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    I wouldn't hold your breath on that one Buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaytallica45 View Post
    What NJ handbook states this? I have yet to hear of/see this
    http://www.state.nj.us/dca/dfs/booklet5.pdf

    The above link is the only thing I can find (in a short check).
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    For the love of god, people and their "CODE 3 SUPER LED MASTER THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED NINETY SIX PATTERN WARNING EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT LIGHTS."

    Use what is legal. If you aren't 100% certain, ask the state police. Don't look for ways to get around your state's law.

    I don't criticize people who put lights on their privately owned vehicles, so long as they are in line with the law. I'm neither qualified nor motivated to undertake the task of debating the law; however, people who choose to ignore it should be prepared to face the consequences.

    In my state, people with a red light permit may operate red lights and an audible signal when responding to a true emergency. Thankfully our department uses discretion when issuing emergency permits, otherwise every junior, probie and adrenaline junkie would be trollin' for flashly-blink-blinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    I wouldn't hold your breath on that one Buff.
    I know.....But it's fun to ask, and make them squirm......
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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanWert View Post
    http://www.state.nj.us/dca/dfs/booklet5.pdf

    The above link is the only thing I can find (in a short check).
    I love that they law states the limit is 51 candlepower.

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    The Dead Horse Has Come Back To Life. Lets Whip It To Death Again.

    Unless You're The Only One Qualified To Drive Your First Due, Drive A Resonable Speed And You'll Get There Alive. Simple Lights , If You Want To Look Like A Christmas Tree Become A Cop Or Get A Chiefs Car Or Truck.

    If Its Big Enough It Will Still Be Burning When You Get There. If Not All You Missed Was A Hose Handling Drill.

    Take All Lights Away From Probies(any Age) And Anyone Under 25 Years Old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rescuedawg View Post
    Take All Lights Away From Probies(any Age) And Anyone Under 25 Years Old.
    And anyone who uses initial caps for their entire sentence. Grammar, my friend, grammar.
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    Easy solution to this problem.

    Get high enough in the dept, and respond to most or all calls. Then park a dept vehicle in the front yard and respond in it.
    Right now I got the mini pumper, so I can run lights and siren everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveB304 View Post
    And anyone who uses initial caps for their entire sentence. Grammar, my friend, grammar.
    I'll use all caps if I want to. Its to let you buffs know that this subject was beat to death. Guys with light displays are usually the ones wearing the "I fight what you fear" shirts. I havent had a light at all in three years, yet I still am in the top five responders for my dept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveB304 View Post
    For the love of god, people and their "CODE 3 SUPER LED MASTER THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED NINETY SIX PATTERN WARNING EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT LIGHTS."

    Use what is legal. If you aren't 100% certain, ask the state police. Don't look for ways to get around your state's law.

    I don't criticize people who put lights on their privately owned vehicles, so long as they are in line with the law. I'm neither qualified nor motivated to undertake the task of debating the law; however, people who choose to ignore it should be prepared to face the consequences.

    In my state, people with a red light permit may operate red lights and an audible signal when responding to a true emergency. Thankfully our department uses discretion when issuing emergency permits, otherwise every junior, probie and adrenaline junkie would be trollin' for flashly-blink-blinks.
    DON'T LISTEN TO DAVEB304. YOU SHOULD BUY ALL YOUR LIGHTS FROM GALLS. YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY LIGHTS. BUY FROM GALLS. YOU NEED THE BIG LIGHTBAR FOR YOUR VEHICLE WHEN YOU MAKE 3 RUNS A MONTH. BUY FROM GALLS. YOU NEVER KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU MIGHT SEE IN YOUR RURAL AREA. BUY FROM GALLS. YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH LIGHTS. BUY FROM GALLS.

    This submitted by a member of a department who gets tax money from Galls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rescuedawg View Post
    I'll use all caps if I want to. Its to let you buffs know that this subject was beat to death. Guys with light displays are usually the ones wearing the "I fight what you fear" shirts. I havent had a light at all in three years, yet I still am in the top five responders for my dept.
    Tremendous! Trust me, that would be a valid argument if everyone were in the exact same boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rescuedawg View Post

    Take All Lights Away From Probies(any Age) And Anyone Under 25 Years Old.
    Pretty stupid comment right there. The fire service is one of the main careers where age and time in the job are becomming factors that have nothing what so ever to do with amount of fire seen or the ability of that individual to perform job tasks.
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    GT, I agree with your point of view to a certain extent in the way that I don't feel a qualified firefighter over 25 is any better at his/her job than someone under 25.

    So rescuedawg, how about those <25 year old EMTs and paramedics? Maybe we should let the firefighters over 25 get to the scene first. Who needs ALS, or even BLS care when you have people older than 25! Awesome!
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    Its not your ability to do the job, its looking like an a hole advertisment for a led light distributor getting there. You may be a redneck fireman, if your car cost 200 dollars and your light display cost 1000 dollars.

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    Since when did the image of our personal vehicles influence the way we serve our community or treat our patients. Can you explain exactly why it matters what your vehicle "looks" like?

    You're probably the kind of person who smiles for the TV camera on the scene of a serious accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveB304 View Post
    You're probably the kind of person who smiles for the TV camera on the scene of a serious accident.
    Never smile if you there's a chance you are going to have your picture taken.

    An old timer taught me that. He was a grumpy mo-fo.

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    Amen to that chief!
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    Haven't run a red light in about 10 years.

    And still made it to the station or the incident in about the same time.

    No need for red, green, purple, yellow marron or aqua lights on any POVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Haven't run a red light in about 10 years.

    And still made it to the station or the incident in about the same time.

    No need for red, green, purple, yellow marron or aqua lights on any POVs.
    Like most things in life (and adult diapers)...

    Depends.
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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