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    Default This man is a trained professional....don't try this at home

    In the spirit of a Stay Back kinda post.....

    So today was the day I was going to finish putting the railing around the deck off my 2nd floor bedroom. Rails all built, put up the ladder, here we go.

    Everything was going fine. I had installed the 3 sections of railling and just needed to finish screwing the facia board to the ends of the floor joists. Key phrase coming up kids...................Then I moved the ladder. Such an innocent statement. Yup, I lowered it down, and slid it away from the house a little more. Hell, all the trade journals are preaching this as the "best" way the set a ladder for bailout.

    It hard to remember which came next. The sliding sound of the ladder against the wood, or the sliding sound of the ladder acroos the gravel. It really doesn't matter. As I was using all of my body weight to drive that last screw into the deck, the ladder was following Newton's Law.........11 Feet down, no waiting, no stops.

    Of course both of my dogs were laying within 3 feet of where the ladder fell, neither one of them moved. I on the other hand fell, bounced and then landed again. 180lbs affected by gravity, falling 11 feet and landed squarely on my left butt cheek. Yes I am sure....I landed on it squarely. My first conscious thought was "which group is on duty if I have to call them", which was replaced with "there ain't no way I'm calling anybody about this"

    Except for a couple of cuts, a future large bruise on my butt, and a current large bruise on my ego......there were no other injuries to report. Now I need a good excuse to tell my Captain.......imagine that....a truckie screwing up a simple ground ladder evolution.

    Take care Brothers.

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    Brother Dave....

    It takes a great amount of "testicular fortitude" to admit that one has made an error, especially about something that we do on the job often (setting up ladders, not falling off of them!) and posting it on an forum read by firefighters all over the world.

    A tip of the leather to you!
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    Default WHOA

    There's nothing quite like those few moments right before impact when you realize that you're hosed, and that "This is gonna really hurt!"

    Hope your OK Brother!
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    Default See ya Ladder?

    Glad to hear you're not seriously injured. That could have put you out of service. You are, of course, going to be the BUTT of all the comments that will follow. Perhaps a new screen name of REAR Admiral would be fitting?

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    Sounds like you were the victim of a classic "brain stall". I am glad that nothing was seriously injured other than your pride.

    There used to be a story circulated by the "safety people" when I was active duty Air Force that was supposedly the narrative for a workmans comp claim that goes like this.

    " I am a bricklayer. I was working by myself finishing a brick chimney on a house. I had hoisted the bricks to the roof by using a wooden barrel and a rope and pulley. I finished the chimney and had bricks left over. I put the bricks in the barrel, climbed down the ladder and tried to untie the rope from the anchor it was secured to. The barrel was heavy so I took a couple of wraps of rope around my arm to get more leverage. I got the rope untied but the barrel was heavier than I was. The following then happened.

    1. The barrel came down and I went up. The barrel struck me on the shoulder as we passed. I jammed my fingers in the pulley when I reached the top.

    2. The barrel hit the ground and broke. I was now heavier than the barrel. I came down and the barrel went up striking me on the right knee as we passed.

    3. I hit the ground, breaking my left ankle. At this point I became confused and let go of the rope allowing the remains of the barrel to come down and strike me on the head.

    I hope this explains my claim"

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    Glad to see that you weren't seriously injured! Seems like da murph reared his head at your house. It happens to all of us at some point.
    Tell anybody but the jakes you work with though!!
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    Default Many thanks

    Thanks all, I appreciate it!

    Puffy...yes I did tell the boys at work, kinda helps to keep you honest.

    Ray, I love that story. I have heard it before but forgotten it until just now.

    Gonzo, I said I landed on my ***. Seriously, no fortitude here, just passing on what fortunately became an amusing story. Of course each day I find something else that hurts (getting older ain't easy), but I can still look back and........blame my wife for wanting a railing on the deck.

    Thanks again boys...
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    Funny....suddenly I feel a lot better!

    Seriously, glad to hear you're O.K.
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    Default ...no punches thrown....

    I did learn one thing from Stayback.....

    Never, not once, did I have the desire to punch the ladder, ground, or anything else. It may have had something to do with the overwelming desire to see if my hip was now attached to my shoulder.

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    Default hfd66truck

    Ya know, hfd66truck....I got to thinking(That in itself is dangerous) and I thought you would like to get an update on current ladder safety tips.

    Enjoy!
    Part 1 http://www.ab.ust.hk/sepo/tips/cs/cs001.htm

    Part 2 http://www.ab.ust.hk/sepo/tips/cs/cs001a.htm

    Part 3 http://www.ab.ust.hk/sepo/tips/cs/cs001b.htm

    Part 4 http://www.ab.ust.hk/sepo/tips/cs/cs001c.htm

    There...now you are completely up to date!
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    hhhhhmmmmmm...........

    How did they get my picture?

    Hey NJ, (he says ROFLMAO) stop making me laugh, I told I keep finding new parts that hurt.

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    Those are beautiful

    hfd66truck... Were you using a leg hold on the ladder when it went?!?

    Serioulsy I hope your... ummm... errr... aaa (oops can't say that) butt is feeling better.

    I think you should post that pic at your station

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    O.K. the ladder tips were just way too hilarious! ROFLMAO!

    I have one question though, what about the aforementioned dogs? Did they survive the moment of impact and better yet did you hear them laughing?
    I would...but no!

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    survive?

    Of course they survived, they barely even moved. Go figure, a squirrel can run by the house a 2:00am, in a lightning storm and they both run around like idiots. A ladder falls 3 feet from them and they don't even move........


    Oh and temptaker....no leg lock, thank god. This would be a whole different story then.


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    I am glad I am not the only one who looks to see who is working before calling!

    Thanks for the chuckle, hfd66truck! The only thing missing is the wife coming out and asking why you are laying down on the job!


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    I didn't think you had leg lock. Not seeing it actually happen I can only guess as to the severity of the break you would have suffered, I'm sure it would have required surgery to fix. Very good thing you didn't use one. I'm glad you weren't seriously hurt.

    I know what you mean about the dogs... hehe. Roxy, my female Dobie, would like a burglar to death, but if a bird lands on the porch she goes nuts. Mind you I can't get her to fetch either, she'll run to where the stick or ball was thrown pick it up, and when you call her back, she drops whatever you threw and then comes back... she's a little on the slow side, but keeps the other one from becoming 'destructo dog'.

    I can imagine the look on your wife's face to... "Didn't I ask you to put a rail on there? I come out here and find you laying down... what are you doing anyway... Suntanning? Shouldn't that ladder be up on the side of the house?"
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    Hey NJFFS, I really like the web links. As Safety Rep, I think I will use them for the next ladders lecture.

    And HFD66TRUCK, First I would like to say that it is good news that nothing other than a few bruises and strains to your rearmost anatomy was done, not to mention your ego.

    As for wondering which crew was on duty, I can appreciate that feeling, had had a couple "suspected" chimney fires (nothing happened fortunately). Funny thing how when it is "One of Us, that we are so scared to call for help eh. Good luck with getting your rear in shape again!
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    Dave - I am pretty sure everyone here has one of those "you shoulda' have known better" stories. including me. Luckily the brain cells that I have lost over the years are the ones with those memories.

    And for Ray R - There is an irish song called "The Bricklayer's Lament" done by Blackthorn which is the same story as you told -it is on their "Tonite's the Night for Drinking" CD

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    Talking Ha ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho!

    Ha ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho ha ha ha hee hee heeha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho ho ho ho ha ha hee hee hee ho hha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho o ho ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho haha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho ha hee hee hee ho ho ho ha ha hee hee ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho hee ho ho ho ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho ha ha hee ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho hee hee ho ho ho ha ha hee hee hee ho ho ho!

    (This smugness from the guy who attempted to till the garden last week and let the tiller pull him ten feet and throw his *** on the ground!)

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    HFD 66
    I'm glad that your doing good
    its sound like you would make a good man serve on IACOJ safety committee.

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    Default Safety Commitee???

    Well, I could serve in 2 capacities. As the lead investigator for the BMI and a member of the safety commitee, absolutely.

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    hfd66 I am also glad to hear that you are ok.

    I echo the sentiment that it would be a cold
    day in hxxx before I called our unit. We are
    very good, but ohh the embarrassment of it all.

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......OH MY GOD!!...but seriously....(snicker, snicker)....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! !!!!!!!!!......I'll get back to this later after I finish laughing!.......

    P.S. I'm glad to hear that you didn't hurt anything. (snicker)
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    Way to go Dave!!
    Glad to hear you are ok!!

    Diddo on not calling your own dept to come and pick you up!! Then there would be pictures for proof of your "I should have know better" accident!!


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