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    Dear Friend

    I am a fireman in Taiwan
    I`d like to know the Decision Making Procedures in your service.
    Please answer five Questions below and fill out the personal profile.
    Gary Hsiao
    A fireman in Taiwan

    1.What is the Size-up process of Fire Command?
    2.How to determine the ATTACK PLAN?
    3.What kind of situation will the Fireground Commander make the sound for retreat and the reason to determine such actions?
    4.What is a successful Fire Command?
    5.What are the factors of a successful Fire Command?

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    Gary Hsiao
    A Fireman in Taiwan

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    May 2002
    New Zealand

    Default Ok I will give it a go if no one else will.

    1. PF1 to PF10

    Where 1 is the amount of force required and PF is the Pucker Factor.

    2. NOTHF or OSIB protocol applies

    "Nock It On The Head Fast" or "Oh S#$T Its Big"

    3. TBB

    Time Between Beers. part two of Question was just answered.

    4. "MAKE UP"

    5. One that gets a good from the crew.

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    Disclaimer:: These methods are the ones that I use myself, I do not proclaim them to be the best in all respects, but they have served me well.

    1. My size up on scene consists of communicating the following:

    Who am I
    What do I have
    What am I doing
    What do I need
    Who and where is command

    Example: Truck 21 on scene of a wood frame single family dwelling
    With smoke showing from side 1, Truck 21 is Command on side
    1, requesting regular alarm.

    2. Attack plan in most circumstances is easy, get in quick, get in
    under the heat, and put water to the seat. If it's too big to
    handle, hit it hard from the yard ie... Blitz and then go

    3. The decision to withdraw, or evacuate, (and yes, they are
    different) is sometimes harder to make. When I am in command
    and I feel it in my gut that things are going bad, or I start
    to not understand what is happening and why, I'm going to call
    them out. Unless I have assurances from my interior companies
    and my sector officers that things are in hand. If I see what
    I consider to be a true, immediate life hazard like collapse,
    possible conflagration hazard, I call the evacuation order. and
    just for the record, withdraw vs. evacuate is like this....
    Withdraw = gather your tools and exit the structure for
    formation of plan B..
    Evacuate = drop your tools, grab your hose, and you're
    team members and run!

    4. A successful fire commanded is one where everyone goes home and
    the fire goes out.

    5. Factors (IMHO) for successful fire command is
    1. Command keeps his head and listens to his company officers! or
    sector officers.
    2. Know what you're dealing with and watch for changing fireground
    3. Listen to your company officers/ Sector officers

    ** Do we see a pattern developing here?

    Name- Ed
    36 y/o
    18 years in Service 13 career, 5 volly
    5 years managerial
    Certifications FF1,2,App.Op. FO 1,2, Inst. 1,2
    Not done with Assoc. Degree,, (I'll finish it when they drag me
    Kicking and Screaming to the Math classes...)

    STay Safe..

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