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    Wink Save the Toad! Save the Toad!!

    Not sure if this made it to the forums previously, but I just had to comment.

    http://www.firehouse.com/news/2002/6/7_APtoad.html

    The basis of the article is this:
    Firetrucks in the southwest part of this Baltic Sea coast nation, suffering a two-month drought, have been delivering eight tons of water daily to several breeding ponds of the endangered natterjack toad, officials said Friday.
    I'm not sure how funding works in other parts of the world, but I not too sure that my local taxpayers would be all the happy with the equipment they 'purchased' being used to wet down a species of toad. I realize that this is supposedly attempting to keep the species from becoming extinct, but it just seems a little absurd.

    and to sum it all up....
    ``If they die, it'd be a disaster,'' he said. ``This toad is near extinction, and this tiny part of Estonia is one of its last strongholds.''
    Maybe it's just me, but we're in a drought here in NJ as well, and the last thing I could imagine is moving water to save toads.

    Where's PETA? Why are they not singing praises for these FF's efforts?


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    Default Re: Save the Toad! Save the Toad!!

    Originally posted by FFTrainer

    Where's PETA? Why are they not singing praises for these FF's efforts?
    Because they are too busy setting houses and forests on fire in peaceful protest.

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    Here in the great state of Maryland moving water to save a species of toad would be hailed as the height of environmental sensitivity. Heaven forbid if you knock over a tree or tear up a field to get to a drafting site for water to save a home or barn, though.
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    And again, fire service productivity reaches a new and exciting level.......

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    Talking Singing...... and Dancing Praises....

    On the Toad again...I can't wait to get on the Toad again...

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    NOW THAT IS CLASS.

    FFtrainer, just a wee thought. Scientists have established that most frog/toad species are the most susceptibile to climatic/polution changes. 100's of species have gone in the last couple of decades and others are showing growing signs of birth defects.

    What does this all mean. I have no idea, it was on Discovery Channel a few weeks back.
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    Default Makes you go Hmmmmm....

    It seems strange, but the PR with the animal lovers must be worth it over there.

    We are here to protect the lives and property of our community. While most people would assume that means human, I would venture to guess that there are some people out there that think this includes pets, farm animals and wild ones too.

    Think of how many "cat in a tree" or "there's a racoon stuck in a dumpster etc....etc...that come in each day. If you don't think your department get's these calls, ask your dispatchers, I am sure they will tell you different!

    People love these kind of stories. I can think of quite a few news reports about firefighters saving a cat or dog from a house fire. If the people didn't want to see it, the news wouldn't report on it.

    Or....Imagine a mirror image of the story, "FD REFUSES to deliver much needed water to dying toads! I think people would jump on the "heartless firefighter" bandwagon in a second!

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    Post On a similar note........

    The wildfire that is currently burning in a section of Volcano National Park, Hawaii, is threatening hundreds of endangered species in that area. The fire, caused and aided by lava flows, is being fought with this in mind.

    Now that's what I wanna do this weekend....battle the forces of Kilauea and Madam Pele! It's bad enough putting up with flames...but now you add 3000 degree lava flows? A tip of the leather to these firefighters!

    Saving the toads might be easier...........
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    The locals round here don't call us for "The cats in the tree" anymore. A couple of years back one of the crusties took the truck around and blew the moggy off his perch with the high pressure line.

    Told the stunned spectators "Well it works on fires."

    Never been called since.
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    NJFFS_16

    Would you save something this butt ugly?

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    Or....Imagine a mirror image of the story, "FD REFUSES to deliver much needed water to dying toads! I think people would jump on the "heartless firefighter" bandwagon in a second!
    I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.

    NJ That's beautiful.

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    For most of the year they live on land, in woods, hedgerows and gardens where they perform a valuable service consuming quantities of slugs and other pests.
    Ohhhh, what we could accomplish by unloading some of these toads on Capitol Hill!
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    Default Hmmm.......................... ......

    ...............I wonder if they work on MUTTS?
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    Another great non firefighting use for apparatus. Yeah right!!
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    ...............I wonder if they work on MUTTS?
    Now , Now...these toads are already endangered...don't you think they have suffered enough?

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    100's of species have gone in the last couple of decades and others are showing growing signs of birth defects.
    I wish that the environmental wackos out there would learn something- what Kiwi is talking about is the natural course of life on this planet. Species die off. It happens. Deal with it.

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    Default TRUE TOAD


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    bfpd36 is right. The dispatch center where I work gets a lot of calls for cats in trees and similar things. But we tell them that the cat will come down and that we are not going to help them. The fire department does not even know that people call. We did send them to help fish deer our of a fish pond on night. The deer were chased by a dog into the local fish hatchery. They went to jump across a pool and the guide wire that goes the length of the pool to hold the feeders cloths lined them and they fell in. They could not get out and were drowning so the fire department volunteered to come and get them out. We did not even page them.

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