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06-19-2002, 06:40 PM #1Forum Member
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Juniors Voting
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06-19-2002, 07:22 PM #2Forum Member
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Not a chance...
At my station, juniors and probies do not vote. That doesn't stop us from communicating our thoughts and ideas to voting members.
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06-19-2002, 08:12 PM #3Senior Member
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Explorers/jrs voting
We cant vote on anything, only in our own meetings.
IACOJ
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06-19-2002, 08:56 PM #4IACOJ Agitator
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As per our Constitution and by-laws...the junior division has a voice but no vote.
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06-19-2002, 10:01 PM #5Senior Member
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I am a probie and cannot vote but our juniors can as long as their probationary period is over and they are participating members.
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06-19-2002, 10:15 PM #6Senior Member
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My current department doesn't have juniors, but in two former departments that did the juniors could attend meetings, but had no voice or no vote. They were also not allowed to be present when personnel matters were discussed. The department I am currently with doesn't allow probationary firefighters to vote during their probationary period, which is six months.
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06-19-2002, 10:54 PM #7MembersZone Subscriber
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Vol.= No juniors and the probies don't vote for one year.
Career= Again, no juniors and the probies are allowed to vote at union meetings. You pay dues - you get a vote."What makes a person run into a building others are running out of?...Character."- Dennis Smith
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06-20-2002, 09:08 AM #8Forum Member
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Same as Adze, voice and opinions...yes. votes...no.
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06-20-2002, 09:15 AM #9Forum Member
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No junior firefighters here..we are career. Ranks from Firefighter to Deputy Chief are members of the Marlborough Firefighters Union, Local 1714, IAFF/PFFM.
Probies can vote on union matters after they have been inducted into the Local."The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY
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06-20-2002, 09:21 AM #10Junior Member
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Probies and juniors can vote at our station, probies and juniors cannot run for Officer positions.
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06-20-2002, 09:50 AM #11Senior Member
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In general meetings the probies and juniors are not allowed to vote.
But we do let them vote on stations issues, like do we want pepperoni or sausage on the pizza.
ftm-ptb-rbp
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06-20-2002, 06:05 PM #12Forum Member
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Juniors are considered the same as other members they can vote on anything. unless it is in an officers meeting then only Sgt.'s through Dist. Chief's can vote.
"I truly believe that tradition is important to the long-term survival of the fire service."-Lt. Andrew Fredricks, FDNY,9-11-01
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06-21-2002, 08:37 AM #13Member
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In my department it is about the same as bfpd36 said. Usually no one listens to them though.
These opinions are my own, not of my company or my affiliates
2 in, 2 Out, Pass on, Collar up, SHOW TIME!
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06-21-2002, 09:38 PM #14Forum Member
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What about officer elections?
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06-21-2002, 10:47 PM #15Member
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at my department juniors are not aloud to vote on anyting.
Jeff Gurski
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