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    Angry Shooting at LAX

    Shooting at LAX near the Israeli Airlines ticket counter. At least 2 dead including the shooter. At near the same time, a small plane crashed into a crowd of people nearby in San Dimas, CA at a theme park. Hold on tight, guys. It may be nothing, but it has me a little spooked right now.
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    Perhaps we should be alarmed. But how much of this is pandering to the media and all the hype? If some guy walked into the airport and started shooting yesterday, it might have made the local news, but because today is the 4th, we should all assume it is some major attack against the U.S. I wonder how long it took to get all those helicopters and media vans over there to LAX? Seems like the media is ready to pounce on anything that sounds even remotely horrifying.

    Oh, and what about that private plane that went down in the hills near here the other day? Did you hear about that? Probably not. But because some private pilot seems like he is trying to put his broken plane in the drink and misses, we have yet another attack. Wow.

    These two events on the same day- coincidence. Okay, so maybe the crazy guy who shot up LAX was trying to stir it up because today is what it is, but who would bother to drive a small plane into a group of people in the middle of the 'burbs? Threre are so many other things he could hit out there and 1) get more people, 2) make a better statement.

    I think that we are all pandering to the media with it's "alerts" and constant jaw flapping about how terrorism is going to strike tomorrow. Don't they know that they are part of the problem? The media is terrorizing the United States everyday with this crap, and they're not going to stop. They have everyone wound up into this huge fervor, afraid that they're next. It's taking a huge toll on the emotions of everyone. Just like that anthrax thing- remember? No one in my city could open any mail from someone they didn't know unless the police and haz-mat team had been called. The call volume for our haz-mat team went from a few every couple of days to hundreds daily. It was ridiculous, and so is the rest of it.

    I think we all need to support better intellegence and information handling by the government, and be a little more suspicious about things that "aren't right." But going off the hook everytime something happens is just going to give yourself a cardiac.

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    BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

    I was kinda freaked at first thinking that is could be a diversion but now I see its just some dumb 52 y/o guy with a gun. July 4th will just be a normal day
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    Yeah it was pretty much a quiet July 4th......but what about July 5th. Only the future can tell.

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    Neither one of these incidents was a terrorist attack
    The park was just a regular park

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    Originally posted by Boney-T
    The media is terrorizing the United States everyday with this crap, and they're not going to stop. They have everyone wound up into this huge fervor, afraid that they're next. It's taking a huge toll on the emotions of everyone. Just like that anthrax thing- remember?
    Yeah...I remember the Antrax thing very well. Two floors of our building were evacuated and closed for about 4 weeks...after an employee's infant developed symptoms of cutaneous Anthrax. We all got tested, some were advised to take Cipro...and the Haz Mat people couldn't find the source of the infection. Turns out it was indeed from a small mail room here.

    Yup...it's nothing but hype by the media. All BS that they decide to disperse to the public. We just don't report the news...we make it up.

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    Default Thank you NJFFS

    When I first posted this, there was very little information available yet. Fox News was my source, and the information was just breaking. They had an eyewitness who saw the shooting at the airport, and the guard took the shooter out quickly. It could have been much worse, as shown buy the extra ammo and gun that shooter had. The news on the plane, at that time, was just breaking, they had no information other than this plane went down into a crowd. They initially called it a waterpark/amusement park. I don't live in that area, so I don't know the local attractions. When two MCI incidents happen, within a 35 mile radius, at roughly the same time, due caution, and warning, is justified I feel. If you disagree, so be it.
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    Let's see...

    An Egyptian male walks into the International Terminal at LAX, armed with a .40 cal. handgun, a 9 mm handgun, a large knife and numerous extra rounds of ammo already in magazines. He walks to the El Al ticket counter and shoots 3 people dead, knifes at least one person and wounds several others. It requires the use of deadly force by an El Al security agent to stop the attack.

    But the media is dealing in hype that this is a terrorist attack?

    You know what? This was a terrorist attack.

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    Amen George...Thank God El Al security got this guy before he killed anyone else. I think our airport security should view El Al as the way security SHOULD be administered. I know that this was a limo driver off the street, but he was in every sense of the word a TERRORIST.

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    All pilots for EL AL were in the Irsrelai Air force and trained in hand to hand unarmed combat


    Frank G Bonelli Regional Park is about7 miles east of my city
    It is located near brackett airfield a public airport which accomdates small aircraft
    It is also near Raging Waters Amusement park
    There is a lake at the park which divers from LASO were checking for any addtional victims and any debris, The most amazing things was there was no fire or explosion once this plane hit the ground

    Even today details of how many were killed are still unclear

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    Engine 101.

    I will put my tounge firmly in my cheek here. My old UAC instructor once pointed out that "The ability to quickly snot someone with training, is overcome every time by a 1/2 ounce lead weight travelling 900 feet per second."

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    I have to agree...the private plane that went down was just a tragedy, not a terrorist threat.

    However, there is no way that you could convince me that an Egyptian man armed to the hilt shooting at the el al counter was coincidence. Even the FBI was eating it's words this am on American Morning. I think the guy was probably acting alone, but he certainly had a destination and a target. Just my opinion...for whatever it's worth.

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    I agree, ember. Just because this guy my not have ties to a recognized group doesn't mean he didn't have an agenda. And what is a terrorist, anyway? Anyone who shoots up innocent people for any reason, political or otherwise, is for all intents and purposes a terrorist to my way of thinking.
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    Just remeber this. As time passes we, as a nation will become more complacent. It is human nature. Only continuous exposure to real attacks will remove that complacency from us as human beings.

    Look at Israel. These people have friends and family blown up on an almost daily basis and they are still out there carrying on with life. Going to parties, temple, work, and about their daily business.

    I have a firm belief that in time, and it will not be long in coming, we will be responding to many of these incidents ourselves. We honestly have no way of knowing how many of these twisted "followers of Allah" are in our country already. It is not the people trying to come into our country that we must worry about, rather it is those already here. Firmly entrenched into our society. They know how we are and how we act because they have become us.

    The worst thing about it is that no matter how much money we spend on inteligence, defense, law enforcement, or public safety, there is nothing that can be done to stop them. We, as a nation, and as individuals are too vulnerable by the very nature of being an United States Citizen.

    The incident at LAX is, sadly, most likely the first of many assaults we will encounter in our time.

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    The worst thing about it is that no matter how much money we spend on inteligence, defense, law enforcement, or public safety, there is nothing that can be done to stop them. We, as a nation, and as individuals are too vulnerable by the very nature of being an United States Citizen.

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