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    I have a moral question for you. This is an imaginary situation, but I
    think it is fun to decide what one would do. The situation:

    You are in the Middle East, and there is a huge flood in progress. Many
    homes have been lost, water supplies compromised and structures
    destroyed.

    You are a photographer getting still photos for the CNN news service and
    are traveling alone, looking for particularly poignant scenes. You
    come across Osama Bin Laden who has been swept away by the floodwaters.
    He is barely hanging on to a tree limb and is about to go under.

    You can either put down your camera and save him, or take a Pulitzer
    Prize winning photograph of him as he loses his grip on the limb.
    So, here's the question.... and think carefully before you answer the
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    Ha, a good photographer always has a back up video camera, set it up and let it run as I pull his a@@ out of the flood. A pulitzer plus a little funny money on the side for that one.

    The only reason why you get the "save his a@@" response is because you posed the question as a moral issue. Unfortunately even though he has caused us all a great deal of grief, it would be on my conscience if he slipped and drowned and there might have been something that I could have done to prevent that.

    Agreeably his actions on 9-11 were absolutely wrong, and there is no redemption for that, but I couldn't allow myself to join his ranks by not saving him.

    But of course this is all purely hypothetical, so no harm, no foul.
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    Duh...the Why Dangle lens?
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    Not wanting to miss the opportunity...I would use my "sure shot" lens!

    Is there anything better than that?
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    I'd use my 70-300mm lens so I could get a good shot of that "Oh $h!&" look on his rat face!!!!
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    Have a nice swim! I wouldn't even consider saving him. I would use the longest lens that I carry so that my feet could remain dry as I catch the look on his hideous puss as he is swept away.
    I would have no moral qualms about this. I would sleep like a baby.

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    I would save him...it's the moral thing to do...


    ...then I would drag his *** to NYC and hand him over to the FDNY!
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    Adze, I will be quite willing to assist you with that! That would be Justice Served. Just hope we don't get into trouble for doing that.
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    I'd put the camera down, save him, take several pictures of him lying there, I would then take the film out of the camera, shove the camera up his *****, with the strap hangine out. I would then poke one of his eyes out, cut off a testicle and shove it in his mouth, then slowly stick some sharp object I could find, slowly through his adam's apple. Then and only then would I take my film, and his head once I detached it and carry it in the camera bag to the U.S. Embassy, get my reward, and give even amounts out that equal 2 million to the lesser known charities of 9/11. The rest I would pay off all my bills, buy a house outright, go on a 2 week cruise with my wife, bank the rest to build up interest and after the cruise I'd report back to my station for work!! I'd use the rest of my time on the lecture circuit and TV shows to make extra cash on the side, and offer my services back to the Marine Corps for recruiting purposes.

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    We better be careful how we phrase our answers...hear there's a new reverend in town and we don't want him to report us to the Webteam for being immoral!
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    Alsfirefighter...OUCH...that would leave a mark! Brother.. Me thinks you need an anger management class! \


    ADZE...I like your idea....I would gladly assist you...but still want to use my "sure shot." And as far as the good reverend....well...hmmm..Have not heard from him lately!
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    I have a 4 x 20 variable "lens" atop a black stick capable of hitting...er shooting...er taking the shot out to about 600-700 yards
    But if I couldn't take the "shot" I'd have to save him so I could turn him over to FDNY, Port Authority, NYPD. In particuliar I'd look for someone who want's him to "Kiss my Irish ***"
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    This one is easy.
    I'd use my 2x12 low light Leupold, pictured here:
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    Artie....

    That wouldn't happen to use a 7.62mm full metal jacket "lens", would it?
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    Well Engine Lt, I don't think that was quite what Matt had in mind when he made the original post. However, I have to admit that I do like it - that was an original answer. Well done.
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    Lightbulb Sure, I'd use a lens...............

    The "lens" of choice for me would also be atop a high powered rifle!

    Actually, I think the proper course of action would indeed be to save the son-of-a-b!%@&, bring him to the U.S. of A. in some semblance of consciousness, and turn him over to the authorities in NYC - preferably the ones who aren't one duty at the time! I'm sure they could find things to discuss with him!

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    Thumbs up Pull his sorry but out

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    We would have to pull his sorry @** out of the water,6 reasons why.

    1. The water system in the area is compromised.
    2. The Bas*#@% might just live.
    3. Would you want him floting in your back yard.
    4. Some poor fire fighter might suck him up in a drafting operating.
    5. He must be helt accountable for his actions.
    6. We are better then he is.

    But I like Engine Lt answer better than mine

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    Default Did you say that there was a flood?

    Seems that if a flood was happenin' then it only makes sense that your line gun might just be required equipment. Now if we happen to aim just a little low....? Besides, then all you have to do is pull the line in with him doin' his best bass impression.

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