Fedfire, what were you talking about here? This is like saying, "Don't tell me about Friction Loss until you've fallen through a floor." If I went to a call and 'live ordnance [was] coming in hard', I would leave and wouldn't return until the police promised that the 'ordnance' thing was over. I'm sure it sucked over there, but it doesn't really count as fire fighting experience. Now if you were a janitor or something, that might count. LoL To be honest, I spend most of my work day cleaning or prentending to clean.
When you have been in some Bosnia craphole on a crash truck, or on a Somali airfield with shot up aircraft with live ordnance coming in hard, then you can tell me about experience