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    Default What sirens do you use?

    i was just wondering which sirens most departments used on their trucks? does anyone use the new tones like thunder?

    in my dept we usually just use the old wail or yelp, ar a dual combo of the two, along wih the cue and air horn
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    Federal Q, phaser, and real air horn (no electric crapola)!!!! What else is there?


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    Cool West Coast stuff

    Out in the West Coast, a lot of FDs use the
    electronics. Lately, you now see more
    mechanicals (grinders, growlers) phasing in.

    I personally like the electronic for several
    reasons.
    1. I can set it and let it work while I navigate
    through heavy traffic. (keeping my hands on the
    wheel and not hunting for a foot pedal)
    2. It is more attention grabbing vs. a more
    monitone mechanical siren.

    I use both systems to really move traffic.Dont
    get me wrong, I love laying on the grinder
    while busting an intersection. But that is my
    preferance.

    I like like the Unitrol line of sirens. They are
    not like those cheap "car alarm" electrics. Here is
    the link-

    http://www.unitrol.com/products/index_touchmaster.html

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    My Engine has a Federal Signal PA300...I like the way it is set up but would rather have Phaser than Hi/Lo. You cant beat a Q2 to move traffic. Well, add a pair of stutter-tone airhorns and watch out. Be safe and have fun out there.
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    Talking Sirens

    We use Fed-Q on 2 Engines and the Ladder real airhorns on all three,Phaser on the Rescue & Tanker.Fed-Q & real airhorns on 2 Ambulances and phaser on the other.

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    Federal Q anything else is mock siren.T.C.

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    Federal Q on our two pumpers, as well as Federal (or Code 3, forget which one) electric sirens on the two pumpers, rescue, & brush.

    In my book, nothing beats a good ol' Federal Q, that sound for me just takes my breath away.

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    We use Whelen electronics with wail, yelp, and phaser. Engines have Grover Stutter tone airhorns. The sirens are loud...but high pitched...so they get on your nerves real quick. I'd much rather have a Q...but dept politics ya know.

    Some of our older apparatus has the Federal PA300's....a much better siren in my book.

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    Default Sirens

    Nothing moves traffic better than a good old Federal Q. Plus, people know that it is a fire truck coming thru not the cops/ems. We have two trucks with federals and three without. The diffrence is amazing. People hear the federals hundreds of feet before electronic sirens. I am sure people who have used both sirens would much rather federals.
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    Question Question...

    Does it really matter what type of emergency vehicle
    is coming through the intersection? Rather it be a
    fire truck, police or EMS, I wish all of our nation's
    drivers would just remember to "Pull to the right
    for sirens and lights."

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    All of my FD's trucks use the "standard" Whail, Yelp(Speed Whail), and Hi/Lo. Electronic. The 2 newest also have Grover Stutter Tone Air Horns (which need to be tuned now that I think about it).

    My Rescue Squad 2 older trucks have the Whail, Yelp(Speed Whail), and Phaser set-up but the new truck, Ohhh the new truck . . .

    It has the SVP SA441-007 Magnum Siren

    This thing is Unbelivable. Unlike your other 200 Watt sirens - this one has 2 independant 100 Watt Amps. - each one drives it's own speaker. In normal mode it operates like the regualr Whail, Yelp, and Phaser units. In magnum mode (depending on what "normal" setting is selected) it will play a different tone in each speaker (out of Phase). If I hadn't seeh how much better this thing clears traffic over what we had before I wouldn't have belived it.

    We are currently specing this set-up on our new Response Unit and will most likely continue to request this as a standard item on all new trucks.
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    We have the only siren known that can ONLY be heard by the occupants of the truck. No one on the outside seems to be able to!!
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    I use every siren we have and both the electronic and actually air horn!! The more noise you make, the more attention you will grab is the way I see it.

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    We use Federal Q, Mars Sirenlight, Federal PA300, Galls traffic buster(?), and SVP. All get the job done, but that Q really moves the traffic out of the way.
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    Everyone that I can reach to turn on. lol. Nothing moves traffic like alternating headlights, air horns, and a Q. The electronic siren I also like in traffic but more for side street traffic. But the cycling action through frequencies of a Q are the best. Plus if they don't move, they may be deaf by the time I go by. If they aint covering their ears, you aint makin enough noise!

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    We use two (2) Whelen 295's on everything. In addition the the Engine Co.'s, Tower Co. and Rescue Co. have REAL Q2's and Grover air horns. BUT after visiting and riding with some PGFD companies and DCFD, I am pushing for our next purchase to be the Powercall line of electronic sirens. Very unique sound, especially for our part of the country. So hopefully our new Administrative and EMS first response units will have two (2) Powercall sirens in them.
    Stay low and move it in.

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    Talking Hear a cool siren now...

    Here is a cool site that lets you hear the best electric
    siren made...Unitrol. Click on the link below and touch
    your mouse on the siren speaker and horn a few times...fun!

    http://www.firehouse.com/firetruck_tour/

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    Federal Q and airhorns...or it ain't a real firetruck in my book. That's why I love our ladder so much...NO ELECTRONIC SIREN!!
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    Q2 and Grovers...dim the lights and drop the air pressure to 90lbs...gota luv it!!!

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    Hang a real alternator on it, add a another air tank and a 16cfm comnpressor.No dimming lights,no loss of air.Next?T.C.

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    I think the more noise the better, get the good 'ol Q wailing and add the electronic and air horn for a little more effect. I also think they move out of the way faster with the added affect
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    Up until our last 10 or so apparatus ALL trucks have a 200watt electric siren, Q2B and grover horns.

    We have started putting electronic Q's on our trucks because of the low amp draw (30 versus 100). They dont sound as good, but its better than nothing. We have used both the Whelen and Federal versions.

    ALSO, we started wiring in a wig-wag module to our airhorns. It was first done to conserve air, but they also move traffic better. The horns are the large stuttertones and tuned a little different. They blast about 1/2 second a piece and go back and forth. REALLY moves traffic. Very cheap also.

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    Smile Question...

    Since everyone here seems to like the Federal Q
    mechanical siren, have you found any problems with
    them drawning to much electricity from the vehicle
    system?

    Thanks

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    YES!!

    Thats is why we have went to the electronic Q's. They only draw 30 amps constant. Versus 100 amps when the real Q is fully engaged. When you combine that with all the other electrical draws it is just too much. We have 270 AMP alternators on our newer trucks. We also have Telma retarters. As you know they are four stage...each stage requires 50 AMPS, making it 200 AMPS when fully engaged. Combine this with A/C, lights, electrical siren, etc, etc it is too much.

    I cant figure out how some of these flashy volly depts run TWO federal Q's.

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