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    Default Another Interesting Ryan Scenario

    how would handle this situation if someone was trapped under the forklift?
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    First I'd call in the bomb squad!
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    Da Bomb
    It be fused out at the aircraft just before fitting to the racks, so it will have no fuse in it. Probably pay to check first though.

    Bring in second fork hoist after stabilising, and sling the bomb and crate away. proceed from there grasshopper.

    PS. get the probie in charge of the second forklift, we will be just over here supervising.
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    Default Not that easy, Kiwi...

    If anyone has done a fair bit of work with forklifts, then you'll understand that this scenario isn't quite as straight forward as it appears....

    * First thing- the bomb. Agree with Kiwi. Generally not live till they're ready to be despacthed, but as stated- get it checked.

    * Second thing- the forklift. This style of forklift has probably got a lifting capacity somewhere between 5-10 tonne. The forklift itself is incredibly heavy. It needs to be secured properly before doing anything. Get Rescue101 or billy down to sort that one out!

    * Third thing- the lifting components of the forklift. Forklift's rely on a hydraulic ram to lift them, and a chain mechanism to lower the load. If you simply put a forklift under the load and lift, yes it will lift, but it's not secure or controlled. If we go down that path, remember- pack-as-you-jack!

    * Fourth thing- the stability of the forklift. Beware of movement of the forklift after lifting the load up and out of the way. Also, look out because as you lift the load, you change the centre of gravity. Forklift take very little to get out of balance when a load is raised. I believe, even on this angle, it could give us some grief...
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    GRASSHOPPER.

    Is that a ramp I see to the right of the picture. Could that be where the forklift was supposed to go?

    If this is a munition dump, and the bomb gives a clue. There will be more than one forklift available. The main problem faced in this scenario is that the forks of the lift have obviously pierced the tarmac and the weight of the forklift is being taken by the bomb cradle.

    This is serving to distrubute the weight of the forklift across area of the tarmac and stop the forks digging in further.

    Yes, forklifts are damn good at lifting, use two together, to get enough clearance to remove the victim. Remembering that the best lift here is going to be up the reverse angle of the forklift. Otherwise you will be trying to tear up the tarmac where the forks have dug in, including potenially under the victim.
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    Thumbs down

    It would seem a likely body recovery to me, given the
    weights of the objects involved and the minimum
    survivable space involved.
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    My wife has a car that she doesn't like anymore, I'm now prepared to believe that she loaned the car to the forklift driver. I believe a promotion is warranted for the Air Force civil engineer who designed the bomb storage depot, promote that man to Major General so that we can all go to bed with the knowledge that our best and brightest are looking over us.

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    That's a good point Sambo! It's scary to think they're looking after us!!!

    Happens to the best of us though...
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    I fail to see the problem here.Fuse the bomb and run like hell,when you return the forklift probably won't be leaning on the wall!T.C.

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    Ah Grandmaster 101, I forgot about your obsession with explosives...

    You didn't mention the probies. Where are they for this one?
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    Come on Luke,Ya don't need probies if you use the right fuse!Hehe T.C.

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    Use the wrong fuse and you sure as heck will not have probies
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    Speakin' from experience Kiwi?T.C.

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    Was number 2 on a bomb dog team for a while, yup.
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    Kiwi,guess that's one place where I'd rather be no. 2 than no.1.I don't do bombs, too many variables,none with a good outcome.One more busy weekend then I can wind down for the Fair.T.C.

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    Default wait a minute

    You guys got it wrong... it was me that had the obsession with expolsives and using probies to set them.....

    ....I still think C4 will displace a door just as well as any spreader or cutter....

    Back to the situation in hand... Being from Canada we would never ever see this secenario:
    1st, we don't have planes to load bombs onto..
    2nd, we don't have bombs to load even if we had the planes..
    3rd, even if we did have planes, and bombs, we wouldn't have enough to need to store them in a building with ramp..

    Isn't the ramp on the wrong side of building? Lutan, would you suggest we move the steering wheel to the other side of the fork lift so that turn could be made a lot easier...?
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    Ah yes, my good friend FF26. How could I ever forget you?

    I guess the technology involved in building and designing a ramp is just a bit too advanced for our Northern friend?
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    Default freak'n ramps

    The problem with ramps is the slope... if they didn't slope, most people wouldn't have problems with them.
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