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    Question "The Bravest" Title...

    Does anyone else have an issue with the title given to us sometimes as "The Bravest" or "Heroes"?

    This thread is not aimed at those that have passed away in the line of duty, etc., it's just that I sometimes hate the title of "Hero" or "Bravest". I do what I do because I enjoy it and I care about the people I'm helping, not to be a hero....

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    Hero? Its better than some kid calling a sports millionaire crybaby a hero, isn't it? You might be doing what you just love to do and not think much of it, but think of some of the heroic things you have or might accomplish. You have the ability to save someone's life or property. I don't agree with calling any Joe Shmoe FF a hero simply because he is a firefighter. However, if his or her actions justify the title then that person is a hero. Another guy at your station might not be my hero or your hero, but he might be Little Johnny's hero for pulling him out of a raging house fire (which coincidentally Little Johnny set by playing with matches...but that's a different story )

    Bravest? I think there are braver, but we are amongst the bravest professions. I think someone who faces bullets every day (like a cop or a soldier at war) is braver. You have to admit though, it's more of a fitting term than calling a cop "The Finest"! LOL (Just busting some stones with that last one, no need for any of you cops to jump all over me)
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    As someone out here in the public may I offer my humble opinion? The definition of hero from Websters:

    a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities d : one that shows great courage



    I do what I do because I enjoy it and I care about the people I'm helping, ...
    This says it all Lutan. Courage and bravery come from the heart. Sometimes, even "The Bravest" is not an adequate word for all that you do and sacrifice. To this ordinary girl out here anyway, you are the "everday heroes" in life and certainly among the bravest.

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    Bravest? I think someone who faces bullets every day (like a cop or a soldier at war) is braver.

    When was the last time a cop was shot at in your town ?.. compare it to the last time you crawled down a dark,hot,and smelly hallway ! ...looking for a victim ? We are surely the bravest!!!
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    I don't mind these titles from civilians. It's better than some things they could call us!

    I have a problem with guys who wear the shirts that say "Real American Hero" and "I Fight What You Fear", etc.

    Get over yourself.
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    Originally posted by mdepas3280
    Bravest? I think someone who faces bullets every day (like a cop or a soldier at war) is braver.

    When was the last time a cop was shot at in your town ?.. compare it to the last time you crawled down a dark,hot,and smelly hallway ! ...looking for a victim ? We are surely the bravest!!!
    A cop might not get shot at every day, but neither would a soldier at war necessarily, but the threat is there.

    How many departments do you really think crawl down a dark, hot, and smelly hallway on a regular basis? Not many in this area. Even if your department has fires on a regular basis, how many times do you or your particular company do this? More cops have been attacked and killed in this area over the last few years than the number of firefighters who went to the hospital or died.
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    Originally posted by Adze
    Bravest? I think there are braver, but we are amongst the bravest professions. I think someone who faces bullets every day (like a cop or a soldier at war) is braver. You have to admit though, it's more of a fitting term than calling a cop "The Finest"! LOL (Just busting some stones with that last one, no need for any of you cops to jump all over me)
    First off the term Bravest is a politicians term for us. We as Firefighters did not come up with it.

    Second I know a lot of Police Officers, most will tell you in their 20 years of service they have NEVER fired there weapon in battle.

    Ask the question about what we do as Firefighters. They will all tell you they have been down a hall or two in their career.
    What we don't face fire everyday? There are more fires in this country then gun calls. Keep reminding the politicians of that during election time. Maybe you might keep your budget or get that raise...
    Remember, If our job was easy the Cop's would be doing it.

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    Police officers = New York's Finest
    Firefighters = New York's Bravest
    Correction officers = New York's Boldest
    Sanitation workers = New York's Strongest

    I believe the latter refers to smell

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    Trivia Time!

    When and where did the term "The Bravest" originate?
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    The "Bravest" goes back to a 19th century legend about an eight foot tall New York City firefighter by the name of Mose Humphreys, who was said to leap into burning buildings and rescue babies by putting them in his hat. He was nicknamed, New York's Bravest.

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    (A little know fact)
    Mose Humphreys was a member of Lady Washington Engine Company No. 40(rig is still at the Rock on display.)
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    Lutan if it makes you feel any better I have always found a the whole hero/bravest thing made me a little uncomfortable. We are respected by the public, as it should be. Thats enough for me.

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    Thumbs up Bravo!

    I totally agree with you lutan, i think the job title of a firefighter is enough, but to be called a hero or the bravest,that sounds good, but, we only do because we're a chosen bunch that just loves helping others and being selfless, and to our highest ability, and when comes down just do what ever in our to do so. So, bravo fellow brothern FF. well said
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    Originally posted by E40FDNYL35

    First off the term Bravest is a politicians term for us. We as Firefighters did not come up with it.

    Second I know a lot of Police Officers, most will tell you in their 20 years of service they have NEVER fired there weapon in battle.

    Ask the question about what we do as Firefighters. They will all tell you they have been down a hall or two in their career.
    What we don't face fire everyday? There are more fires in this country then gun calls. Keep reminding the politicians of that during election time. Maybe you might keep your budget or get that raise...
    Remember, If our job was easy the Cop's would be doing it.
    My thoughts and comments echo this.... well said Brother!

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    The two most over used phrases since 9/11 have been "bravest and hero's" After a while they will start lose their true meaning, and become a hack phrase like "superstar" or "diva" Like Lutan this makes me feel uncomfortable.

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    Well done E40! I like that picture!

    Hey Superchef- I just read your reply properly- thanks! That, for some reason puts it in a different light....
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