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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Obviously not your first Rum and Coke, 10 or 11 I would guess. He didn't say anything. FYI Einstein, keyboard is one word.
    Here we go......


    Why do you need ot be a career firefighter to have knowledge of Unions? Do you think they are the only ones with useless Union structures that suck cash out of their memebrs? And who said I knew anything about fire fighters striking? Open your eyes, read the lines of text. Tell me where I sadin anything at all about Fire Fighters striking. I don't know for sure, but I believe they are also prohibited from striking. So what good is a Union? But I like it. Another battle one. You get hit with logic and reality and respond with name calling. No facts. No logic. No insight. You simply don't know what to say. All you know is you have been brainwashed by the $100,000 a year Union bosses that you need them. And you have no problem giving them your money. Unions in this country have essentially outlived their usefullness. Labor laws and free trade have obsoleted them. I was able to improve my job and my position. And I didn't need a Union to help me do it. Matter of fact, there were a couple of non Unoin jobs that came out in the papers as I was leaving, and they paid more money. Unions are one of the Great American rip-offs of this century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny46 View Post
    "Won," genius. A typo is one thing, mixing up your mono-syllabic words is another. When you're going to crow about your abilities and mock others, police your posts. Eliminate misspellings. Just some advice.
    No, he was right. It's another battle #1. He has yet to win any of them so they don't count.
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    So Johnny, did medical control ever improve? I declined a job offer in Houston at about the time of this original post. One of the major reasons was I was told by some people working there at the time that you had to call med control for orders on just about everything. Anything change yet? Has money ever been improved because that was another reason?

    Oh, IAFF proud by the way. I didnt actually understand the benefit of this union until I became involved in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic563 View Post
    So Johnny, did medical control ever improve? I declined a job offer in Houston at about the time of this original post. One of the major reasons was I was told by some people working there at the time that you had to call med control for orders on just about everything. Anything change yet? Has money ever been improved because that was another reason?

    Oh, IAFF proud by the way. I didnt actually understand the benefit of this union until I became involved in it.
    I'm a Basic, so I'm not sure, but it has never seemed to me like the guys had their hands tied. I know a paramedic chauffer on a medic or squad makes senior captain pay.

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    I know Houston is taking Apps again. You know how many their gonna hire vs how many normally test?

    I've been wanting a little more action and have been thinking about maybe testing. I really dont care about riding the ambo or squad. I actually enjoy it I got my medic and would like to actually use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    I know Houston is taking Apps again. You know how many their gonna hire vs how many normally test?

    I've been wanting a little more action and have been thinking about maybe testing. I really dont care about riding the ambo or squad. I actually enjoy it I got my medic and would like to actually use it
    Last I heard was they were going to have a test in anywhere from 2-3 months for paramedics. Not sure on the numbers but Ive gotten the impression from one of the EMS chiefs that hiring existing FF/P is going to become a large way of keeping up thier medic numbers. You'll get plenty of action on the squads thats for sure. I about to transfer from a station with a medium squad (avg 16-18 calls a day) to a station with one of the top squads (avg 22-26 calls a day). But yet Im a basic only and destined to ride the box (avg 14-16 a day) for the next two years.

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    Wow, a 5 year old thread. Gotta be a record.

    I think the dead horse has decayed.

    We're beating a decayed horse. Maybe we're probably beating some mushrooms that grew up or some maggots or worms or something, I'm sure.

    I think the thread was locked, and they let it out on probation. Maybe they can try it again, eh webteam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Why do you need ot be a career firefighter to have knowledge of Unions?
    Actually you don't need to be a career FF to have a general knowledge about unions. You just need to be one to know the IAFF.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    All you know is you have been brainwashed by the $100,000 a year Union bosses that you need them. And you have no problem giving them your money. Unions in this country have essentially outlived their usefullness. Labor laws and free trade have obsoleted them. I was able to improve my job and my position. And I didn't need a Union to help me do it. Matter of fact, there were a couple of non Unoin jobs that came out in the papers as I was leaving, and they paid more money. Unions are one of the Great American rip-offs of this century.
    I used to think unions were out dated and useless, that is until I joined the IAFF. In the 2 years that our local has become more active we have secured an 8% raise for our members and just recently secured a pension that 1. allows use to leave at 55yoa with 25yos with no penalty 2. allows us to carry our insurance with us when we leave. This has been no small achievment as this is the best pension that has been made available to our members since 1976. These are just two of the accomplishments that a UNION in a right to work state has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF View Post
    Is it any wonder everyone thinks you are the biggest ******bag they have seen in the last 100 years? Are you a career firefighter? What would you know about fire departments striking?

    He would know absolutely nothing. Which is why he posted in the first place. But maybe we will be lucky and he will find some survey or other research from 1880 to prove his "supposed" point
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    Here we go......




    You should not be giving anyone grammar lessons, k Einstein?
    That isn't grammer, that's one finger working faster than the other. We call those typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny46 View Post
    "Won," genius. A typo is one thing, mixing up your mono-syllabic words is another. When you're going to crow about your abilities and mock others, police your posts. Eliminate misspellings. Just some advice.

    The contract was voted down by people who want to promote and thought eliminating jobs was a bad thing. Contracts are supposed to improve working conditions, and eliminating positions isn't usually an improvement.

    The raise settled upon is like stirring cheese into mashed potatos. It disappears. The scumbag HMO Blue Texas is raising their rates again, in spite of the fact that they skip out on paying for procedures, drag their leaden feet in getting approvals, and seem to have an unacceptable amount of paperwork as compared to other bastard *** piece of **** HMOs. That's like saying someone was too evil to be in the Nazi party.

    Oppps... You are right it is WON, not one. Must be a small short circuit

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlcooke3 View Post
    Actually you don't need to be a career FF to have a general knowledge about unions. You just need to be one to know the IAFF.


    I used to think unions were out dated and useless, that is until I joined the IAFF. In the 2 years that our local has become more active we have secured an 8% raise for our members and just recently secured a pension that 1. allows use to leave at 55yoa with 25yos with no penalty 2. allows us to carry our insurance with us when we leave. This has been no small achievment as this is the best pension that has been made available to our members since 1976. These are just two of the accomplishments that a UNION in a right to work state has done.

    Skippy you ain't got a clue, and you couldn't buy one.
    Teamsters, Teachers, IAFF, a Union is a Union. I belonged to one of the supposedl;y most powerful Unions and they were useless and not worth the $10 a week they stole from me. FYI, that is $520 per year. I would be willing to bet if you made the fire service more competitve the salaries and benefits would go up. Once an employer has invested in your training and getting you up t ospeed they don't want to see you leave, that is if you are worth keeping around. The paid firefighters have gotten into the same mold as the teachers. we get a job and stay there until we retire. We don't have to try to better ourselves because we are in a Union and have Tenure. The ATC guys got what they deserved. They knew the rules when the signed up and Reagan made them accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Teamsters, Teachers, IAFF, a Union is a Union. I belonged to one of the supposedl;y most powerful Unions and they were useless and not worth the $10 a week they stole from me. FYI, that is $520 per year. I would be willing to bet if you made the fire service more competitve the salaries and benefits would go up. In many places the fire service is quite competitive in recruiting and retaining quality employees.Once an employer has invested in your training and getting you up t ospeed they don't want to see you leave, that is if you are worth keeping around.You are under the assumption that employers actually care for employees and we all know what assuming does, don't we. The paid firefighters have gotten into the same mold as the teachers. we get a job and stay there until we retire. WE??? We who? You got a mouse in your pocket? You've made it quite clear that you are not a paid firefighter.We don't have to try to better ourselves because we are in a Union and have Tenure. The ATC guys got what they deserved. They knew the rules when the signed up and Reagan made them accountable.
    Hate to break it to you but the IAFF is not there to get you a job or help you keep it. The IAFF International and its locals not only work to improve pay and benefits of its members, it also exist to better the working conditions to make our jobs as safe as possible. The IAFF (a union that you detest, as you detest all unions) has done more to increase the safety of all firefighters not just the ones of us who pay dues.

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    Do the squads and ambo's get to fight any fire?

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    Hey HotTrotter

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    Why the hell did I even respond to this 5 year old thread?

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    I hate to bump old topics but I got a quick question:

    I called today and was told that Houston has a test for non-certified and certified people. I was told that the current test was for non-certified. Any idea when the next certified test is?

    And, is it any different that the non-certified test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    I hate to bump old topics but I got a quick question:

    I called today and was told that Houston has a test for non-certified and certified people. I was told that the current test was for non-certified. Any idea when the next certified test is?

    And, is it any different that the non-certified test?
    The difference is the non class is for civilians with no training at all. The certified class is for either FF/EMT or FF/P depending on the test. I took the non class despite I had already been FF/EMT for a year and was working for a department. The long way about things cause I got through in 9 months as apposed to 8 weeks. I have heard unofficially the next test for FF/EMT or FF/P will most likely be toward end of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    Do the squads and ambo's get to fight any fire?
    Not really there are rotating stations that have a system of being on apparatus for a stint then back on the EMS side but straight EMS when your on one of those bad boys. Unless your lucky enough to get a DC who will use them as rit team. Other than that its just on the outside humping slack and videoing.

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    Well... I called and was told that I could take the non-certified test but that I could also wait for the certified test and they told me they were not 100% sure but to expect that one in July sometime.

    I figured I would go ahead and wait for that one. I dont know how it works... are they more apt to take the list of ones who are certified or do they do like a 50/50 from both lists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    Well... I called and was told that I could take the non-certified test but that I could also wait for the certified test and they told me they were not 100% sure but to expect that one in July sometime.

    I figured I would go ahead and wait for that one. I dont know how it works... are they more apt to take the list of ones who are certified or do they do like a 50/50 from both lists?
    You'd have to ask them what points are awarded for this go round.

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