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    Looking for types of carts/trailers used to extricate patients from the mountains or trails after ATV accidents. Do you have a specific type or know where any can be purchased. THANKS!

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    We utilize a Polaris Ranger six wheel. Only issue is belt drive vs gears. Braking becomes a serious issue on downhill and steep traverses. After spending the money on the Polaris and having a few close calls, we changed our Rescue SOG. In steep decents,all but the vehicle operator disembark and walk behind vehicle- same goes for ascents as if the machine can't make the climb it's a bear to back down.
    If I had it to do over again I would purchase the PUG. It articulates, is overpowered and is the machine. The JD Gator is ok for the golf course and the 2% grades but has the same issues as the Mule and the Ranger.

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    Check out:
    http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...10212_16212_-1



    I designed this unit (mechanical engineer for Cub Cadet) and have done quite a bit of testing versus other vehicles. Our price is much lower than the competition, and we have a far superior vehicle than the others out there. The independent suspension sets this vehicle apart from all others.

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    Check out www.triplesrescuecarts.com We have the best cart on the market. Check it out and give me a call. Jeff

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    Check out Orion Industries.
    http://www.orionsleds.com/2402.html

    They make a nice sled. It has a clam shell cover that pops off. Also has a platform on the back for an attendant. We have one. We have the wheel kit and the ski kit. Handy here in Vermont. Has worked well for us. The sled also makes a great freight sled for towing gear around. Just take the cover off. We have used it in the past to haul dive gear to inaccesible locations.
    We use two ATV's to haul. We have a 400cc Bombardier Outlander ATV and a 650cc Bombardier Traxter. Reason we went with Bombardier is that they are 2man ATv's. So far so good.
    Here is a link to look at what we are using. Bottom row. This pic shows it with the ski kit.
    http://www.colchesterrescue.org/tech_pics.html

    If you need more info, email.

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    Black Mountain Fire and Rescue or Swannanoa Fire and Rescue in Buncombe County North Carolina. They built their own ATV trailers for patient removal from wilderness settings and both have darn clever designs, and they work great. I think they would be willing to share their design.
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    Thumbs up All Terrain Rescue Trailers

    As we are throwing out ideas for available ATV Rescue Trailers, here's one that is catching on in several regions of the USA:
    http://www.EEResQ.com

    Here's a link to their photo gallery:
    http://eeresq.com/id9.html
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    Have you seen the "ATEV's" All Terrain Emergency Vehicles from CARBA?
    They will go anywhere and even float. With tracks, they go in deep snow and mud. Check out the Medical Search and Rescue one. find at www.carbafiretech.com .Patient is protected inside the vehicle and the EMT's can evenwork on them while moving. Also, the comment section talks about their use. Hope this is helpful.

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    Lets see if I can get the link to Off Road Rescue to post this time?

    Here's a link to their gallery: Off Road ResQ Squad Photos

    Be SAFE out there!
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    We haven't gotten around to picking up a tow-behind unit of our own just yet, but the local snowmobile & ATV tour operator has one of these that we have used before:

    http://www.eqnx.biz/rescue/snowbulance.html



    It is a good little unit, can be used with skis or ATV wheels, and works well in most terrain. The only downside is that in the summer heat, it is absolutely unbearable to be inside. We have talked about making the windows removeable, so they can be taken out in summer. Then it would have the benefit of limited element protection, shade, and still allow air movement.

    The big plus to this unit is that you can leave it fully stocked with major incident gear, and just hook up and go when needed.
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    You may want to check out a multipurpose Kaw Mule at www.staufferco.com . This set-up covers a variety of duties.

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    Our departments been running wilderness rescue for almost 8 years now with a polaris 6X6. We started with a pull behind cart that was made by a company in CA(I believe they are no longer in business). Over several years of doing this we frown upon using the cart now for extrication. Now we place the stokes basket in the rear of the 6X6. We did this for several reasons. It's a smoother ride for the patient. A attendent can ride with the patient. It's easier going over large obsitcles and gullies. Plus it removes the possiblity of the cart fliping. Extra people don't have to walk a long side of the cart, which means less breaks and a faster extrication. However, when we are activated for a rescue we have a seat that is placed in the back of the 6X6 to carry personnel in. We tow the cart with the 6X6 in with us loaded with all are medical equipment, rope equipment, etc. When we get to the location we remove the equipment and the stokes. Package the patient in the stokes basket, and place it on the 6X6 we remove the patient normally with 3 people. Once the patient is safely in the medic unit we proceed back to pick-up the remaining personnel and equipment. We use GPS units so this is not a probelm. This system has worked well for us and we plan on using this for a long time to come. As far as putting the stokes in the bed of the 6X6 all we did was modify the dump mechanism to prevent unwanted dumping of the patient. and we place 2 hooks at the front of the bed to secure the basket, and then 2 quick straps near the feet to secure side to side movement. I will see if I can post some pics here for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rescuetech147 View Post
    ...Now we place the stokes basket in the rear of the 6X6. We did this for several reasons. It's a smoother ride for the patient. A attendent can ride with the patient. It's easier going over large obsitcles and gullies. Plus it removes the possiblity of the cart fliping. Extra people don't have to walk a long side of the cart, which means less breaks and a faster extrication. . ..
    Sounds like you have a good system for open areas or Jeep type 4x4 trails. However, the 6x6's and similar sized UTV's are from 56" to 63" in width. This makes for difficut passage through deep woods and on most typical ATV / OHV trails.

    If your "pull behind cart" is flipping over during rescue operations, this may be the reason the builder is no longer in business. Several ATV trailers have hit the market over the last 10 years. Many are little more than down-sized utilty trailers, or "Kit" built trailers, modified to carry a litter. Unfortuately, most had little or no engineering behind their designs, and few included an adequate suspension system; critical in the safe handling of any vehicle.

    Today, I am aware of at least seven competent All Terrain Rescue Trailer manufacturers in North American: ASE in Utah, ALL TERRAIN RES-Q in New York, EQUINOX in Manitoba, MOUNTAIN GOAT in Nebraska, NICHOLS in Maine, ORION in Minnesota and OUTDOORSPORTS in California. These manufacturers produce ATV Rescue Trailers and Snowmobile Rescue Trailers (more commonly refered to as sleds).


    Here's a link to a great article by JIM THEODORE in FIRE-RESCUE News titled:
    "ALL TERRAIN RESCUE"
    http://www.firerescue1.com/firerescu...e/23-12/13798/
    In his article, Jim (a leading off-road rescue instructor in MN), states:

    "The choices are endless, but budgets are not. If you have the opportunity to participate in your department's decision to purchase an off-road rescue vehicle, aim for an all-around, versatile ATV. Deciding factors include multi-surface adaptability, smooth victim ride, maneuverability, carrying capacity and cost. If forced to name the best off-road rescue option for the everyday fire/rescue agency, I would select a narrow-width ATV and trailer combination. Rescue trailer manufacturers typically offer change-out ski-to-wheel kits, making these vehicles the most versatile devices on the market. They are very stable and smooth, and move well on snow, ice, mud, grass or asphalt, based on the appropriate suspension and surface interface (wheels or skis)."

    I hope this helps in your decisions. Whatever you decide, please get the appropriate training prior to operating any off-road vehicle (with or without a trailer) during rescue operations. http://eeresq.com

    As always, BE SAFE OUT THERE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EEResQ View Post
    Sounds like you have a good system for open areas or Jeep type 4x4 trails. However, the 6x6's and similar sized UTV's are from 56" to 63" in width. This makes for difficut passage through deep woods and on most typical ATV / OHV trails.
    Well as long as we have had this unit we have always gotten to where smaller ATV's go, and because of its width and extra set of wheels we have even been places where the smaller ones couldn't. Of course we have had one or 2 occasions where we had to take down a tree, but a chain saw makes fast work of that. I remember one time to be exact we had a hunter fall out of a tree stand about 2 miles back an ATV trail. We got about 100 feet from the hunter, but there was 1 tree in our way and a steep creek bed. They were going to bring the patient to us, but we told them to wait. 2 mins. we where to them. There was no way that an ATV with a cart would have made it. We actually had to take ours off and pull it out, but with the pt. in the back we had no problem getting back through it. I also remember a run where we went through a mud puddle about 2 1/2 to 3 feet deep. Our patient was still above the mud, but with a cart the would have been for the lack of a better word sunk. To be honest I cant ever remember using it on anything other than ATV trails. There are not really any big areas for jeep or 4X4. That is why we went with an ATV and not a jeep or something.

    When I was saying about the cart flipping I was referring to when we go over large obsticles like trees and large rocks. It ran pretty decent running down atv trails. Like I said we still use it every time to haul equipment in.

    The one problem I saw early on when we first got the unit and were using the cart was going up and down hills. Those carts when loaded and going down a steep hill tend to slide sideways, and if you have a patient in it it could end in trouble. Also, if you try to go through really deep creek valleys they tend to get stuck pretty easy. In our area this has worked out great for us where the cart has not. I'm not saying this is the best way, but this is what works for our area. I'm sure that in some areas this might not be an option, and a cart is. But these are my experiences with them.

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    The Kawasaki Mule Trans offers patient transport in the cabin area where they will be most protected and have the smoothest ride, the back seat allows the pt to be attended by a medic. The unique configuration of these units built by www.staufferco.com is the fact that after the pt has been delivered to the 1st aid station or rescue squad--the unit quickly transforms back to hauling 5~6 people and providing a multitude of sevices.
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    There are some good ideas here. Carring a chainsaw is a great idea. The only poblem that we have here in southern Ohio is that trails are often limited to 50". To ensure this forestry service will place large boulders about 52" apart. This eliminates the wider vehicles. I know that our county has a 4X4 gator, it only comes out for fairs, parades and events like that. If we have a rescue operation out on the trails in our area, they call for our cart and our Honda Rubicon.

    http://www.triplesrescuecarts.com/im...wwwwww_012.jpg


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    Thumbs up All Terrain Rescue Trailer

    Hiking trail width restrictions, trailer stability, patient comfort and rescuer safety are combined in this ATV Rescue and Snowmobile Rescue Trailer.
    With 56 of units in 25 states, they've proven themselves in all kinds of situations and environments.
    http://eeresq.com/ ATV Off-Road Rescue Trailers
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    Default Rescue Hitch

    I am looking for a system to carry the stokes basket on the class III hitch on the back of a rescue unit. It is a small unit and there are areas where the ambo can't get in and it doesn't require an ATV just a 4x4 with a profile smaller than the ambo. It may be a once in a lifetime thing but it sure would be nice. I thought I saw one somewhere but I can't find it now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrtrks View Post
    I am looking for a system to carry the stokes basket on the class III hitch on the back of a rescue unit. It is a small unit and there are areas where the ambo can't get in and it doesn't require an ATV just a 4x4 with a profile smaller than the ambo. It may be a once in a lifetime thing but it sure would be nice. I thought I saw one somewhere but I can't find it now.

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    The fact that you cannot find the unit you described anymore should tell you something.

    There's a potentially dangerous problem with the design of such a device. If we as fire / rescue personnel are forbidden to ride the tailboard of apparatus traveling down relatively smooth highways, why would you strap a sick or injured person to a plateform extending from the hitch receiver of the same rig and haul them across a field? Where does the attendant ride? Or, does he jog along behind as I have witnessed when a Stokes is cross-loaded onto an ATV gear rack?

    These devices work well on a 6X6 UTV as the bulk of the mass is contained,
    and protected, within the bed of the vehicle. Unfortunantly, not all of us can afford a 6X6.

    Last weekend I assisted with an ATV / UTV Safety & Rescue training program at a regional fire / rescue school in our state. Participants were invited to bring their own off-road rescue vehicles to this training. One UTV that particpated was equipped with the device you are looking for. Complete with an attendant's seat, it was very sturdy. Upon close examination, we estimated the total weight of the carrier to be +200 lb. Also, it was custom built to fit the hitch system of the vehicle carrying it. However, the builder must not have read the "Manufacturers Warning Labels" on this UTV.

    Along with several other statements, two very important WARNINGS were included on labels prominently affixed to the inside of the bed of this YAMAHA 660 Rhino 4X4 UTV. One of them clearly stated "DO NOT EXCEED 400 lb. BED CAPACITY". Considering that the Stokes carrier weighed at least half that empty, we became concerned. The other warning label stated "NEVER ALOW PASSENGERS TO RIDE IN THE CARGO BED". Upon reading this warning, we knew where the product liability was going to fall; right back on the person or entity (the fire department) attempting to use this carrier.

    My point is this: Whatever you do, investigate the product before investing hard to come by dollars in something that exposes you and your department to the risk associated with the Stokes carrier described above.

    Be SAFE out there!

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    Wink ATV Rescue cart/trailer

    There is a small rescue trailer utilizing a class III hitch that can be seen at www.atvcareunit.com.

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    We here at Nichols Custom Welding have come out with a new design for our rescue trailers, including all aluminum construction and a Torflex independent tandem axle set. This makes the unit much lighter and ride much smoother than our previous steel units with leaf spring suspension while being just as rugged. Currently our units are in use in 20 states including 2 units in Alaska. An IV hanger,Stokes basket hanger, work light and ability to carry EMS personnel along with the victim make this a very useful unit.
    The president of the company is a past chief and I myself a volunteer for 5 years understand the needs you all face in your line of work and the budgets you have to work with. Feel free to contact me with any questions about our units or check out our site at www.nicholstrailers.com . We build trailers to suit your needs.
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    Thumbs up Off Road Rescue Trailers and Medical Inserts

    Just a few facts concerning ///OffRoadRescue trailers and inserts:


    #1 + The right combination of knowledge, skills and experience.

    #2 + Simplicity of design combined with rugged construction methods.

    #3 + Hands on approach to the manufacture and distribution of the product.

    With several well built off-road rescue trailers and UTV (side-by-side) medical inserts on the North American market today, if you look at them all, you will eventually agree that when it comes to rescue operations in an off-road environment, SIMPLE IS BETTER.

    Check out ///OffRoadRescue Trailers at: http://www.OffRoadRescue.com/
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    Thumbs up Cooperation between VFD and SAR works!

    Here's a perfect example of cooperation between a small town VFD and the County SAR Team in Nevada.

    Check out: "NYE County SAR and Tonopah VFD Come Together for a Wilderness Rescue Training Exercise, then One Week Later... An Off Road Rescue at Crescent Sand Dunes in Nevada." http://www.eeresq.com/id11.html
    Remember, please be SAFE out there!

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