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    William Langewiesche's book "American Ground: The Unbuilding of the World Trade Center" is filled with factual errors from start to finish. He knows controversy sells...and so does BULL*****. This so called author decided to go in the opposite direction with the way our BROTHERS operated that day. Lets not let this guy destroy our image, our pride, or our way of life. He says he has proof of his story, yet no one has seen any of it. Please view this website. CLICK HERE PLEASE
    I feel Mr.Langewiesche's libelous statements, have attacked not only the FDNY, but the credibility of all firefighters across the United States!



    The firefighters of the 9th Battalion will be at his book signings. We will be there to let people know you can't make a profit on lies and BULL*****.
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    Just add him to the long list of vultures who have used these murders to line their own pockets.

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    This guy is right up there with that jerk Frenchman who put out the book saying that the attack on the Pentagon 9-11 was staged by the government. A spanner wrench to the head to both of them.
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    E40FDNYL35,

    Just got done reading the website you provided and I have come to this conclusion. This guy is a complete WANKER, this guy proves that there is a time and a place for book burnings. Have fun at the book signing GIVE HIM HELL BOYS!!!!!!!!

    Oh and one more thing while you are there please do me this one small favor.........
    1-ball up your fist
    2-raise it about head level
    3-extend your middle finger
    4-and tell him MOTOWN says hi.
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    If he makes a tour to Pennyslvania, Im sure we will have someone welcome him.

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    Originally posted by quint1driver
    If he makes a tour to Pennyslvania, Im sure we will have someone welcome him.
    Oh yea. A nice official welcome like only a fire dept could do. A deckgun with the FFFP Foam on 6%

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    Still plenty of times and places to introduce ourselves.

    Powell's City of Books
    1005 W. Burnside
    Portland OR
    11/8/2002 7:30 PM

    Elliott Bay Book Co.
    101 S. Main St.
    Seattle WA
    11/9/2002 7:30 PM

    Capitola Book Café
    1475 41st Ave.
    Capitola CA
    11/10/2002 7:30 PM

    A Clean Well Lighted Place
    601 Van Ness Ave.
    San Francisco CA
    11/11/2002 7:00 PM

    Stacey's Booksellers
    581 Market Street
    San Francisco CA
    11/12/2002 12:30 PM

    Easy Going Bookshop
    1385 Shattuck Ave.
    Berkeley CA
    11/12/2002 7:30 PM

    Los Angeles Public Library
    630 W. 5th St.
    Los Angeles CA
    11/13/2002 7:00PM

    Esmeralda's
    1555 Camino del Mar #307
    Del Mar CA
    11/14/2002 7:00 PM

    Tattered Cover (Lodo Store)
    1628 16th Street
    Denver CO
    11/15/2002 7:30 PM

    South Street Seaport Museum
    207 Front Street
    New York NY
    11/18/2002 6:30 PM

    Barnes & Noble
    2289 Broadway at 82nd St.
    New York NY
    11/19/2002 7:30 PM

    Politcs and Prose
    5015 Connecticut Ave. NW
    Washington DC
    11/20/2002 7:00 PM

    Wordsworth Books
    30 Brattle St.
    Cambridge MA
    11/21/2002 7:00 PM

    Odyssey Bookshop
    9 College St.
    South Hadley MA
    11/22/2002 7:00 PM

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    E40FDNYL35

    I am sure this individual will get what's coming to him in due time.

    While those with "blinders" on may actualy absorb some of the excretment he is oozing out, be rest assurd that the real stories will prevail.

    While many cannot join you and the 9th Batt. when the time is right, you know we will be there in other ways.

    I remember a story a few years ago about that 3 degrees of seperation with Kevin Bacon- or something like that.

    Well it's more like 1 degree with Firefighters. We tend to have lot's of contacts and that long arm will reach out and touch him some way fierce.

    Take care,
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    This is BULL*****. I wouldn't wipe my ***** with this book. This buttmunch needs to get his facts straight instead of putting libelous syatements on paper.
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    Halligan84 THANK YOU for that list. I hate to ask my BROTHERS and SISTERS for another favor but, if you and a few friends could show up to this guys book signing that would GREAT. It's about what is true and what is fiction. This book is fiction.
    Remember the statue that was going to be put up in front of FDNY's Headquarters. It was not a true image. This book is not a true image. If these lies go unchallenged it will be part of the historical record.
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    William Langewiesche is a schweinhund sheisskopf!
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    This MUTT is going to be in my neighborhood!!!

    Mr. President, Can we make a trek to South Hadley, MA on Friday to show this schweinhund sheisskopf some cold northerner hospitality?

    IF anyone can make it to South Hadley, please e-mail me at ffbrin17@netzero.net with your name and phone number. I will be working on plans to get a sizeable group organized!!!

    Any others? Time for a roadtrip. Are we going to let this numbskull tarnish the image of our beloved FDNY members.

    E-mail me, lets get a group together, I will call you back!

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    This guy is money hungry. Greed ALWAYS ends in regret.

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    Anyone attending the book signing please attempt to find out more dates and locatioons. I don't want to miss the opporunity to meet this individual.

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    Anyone attending the book signing please attempt to find out more dates and locatioons. I don't want to miss the opporunity to meet this individual.

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    E40 - Not a problem, anything to help.

    Duff - From the publishers webpage, these were all the posted locations of signings.

    I looked for an email to the author but found none, the Atlantic Monthly and his publisher do have sites.

    http://www.fsgbooks.com/fsg/americanground.htm

    http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/07/langewiesche-excerpts.htm

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    Isn't it amazing that he is the only one who uncovered all of this at one of the most minutely scrutinized events in modern history. I guess all the other journalists and scribes of the various groups who participated in the WTC activities are all in on some great conspiracy to dupe the public. Yeah, right.....
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    Is this guy just a civilian Journalist? I am kind of confused. From what I gathered after reading the link E40L35 posted, he sounds like a typical person who doesn't understand what we do. However, some of his comments are a bit brutal towards members of the FDNY. I notice he has a Book Signing near me in DC on 11/20...

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    THIS MAN LIES ABOUT OUR BROTHERS.
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    He said As rumor had it, the tribalism at the site extended even to choice of goods. Firemen were said to prefer watches from the Tourneau store, policemen to opt for kitchen appliances, and construction workers (who were at a disadvantage here) to enjoy picking through whatever leftovers they came upon – for instance, wine under the ruins of the Marriott hotel, and cases of contraband cigarettes that spilled from U.S. Customs vaults in the Building Six debris… After a few arrests were made, the filching shifted to the peripheral buildings, which were gradually thinned of computers until authorities wised up and posted guards.”

    THE TRUTH
    Throughout his articles, Mr. Langewiesche continuously uses slanderous innuendo to denigrate uniformed rescue personnel and construction workers. Such statements are libelous. Atlantic Monthly is a news magazine, Mr. Langewiesche’s “impressionism” flies in the face of the responsible reporting of facts. PAPD and the NYPD 1st Precinct are the ones with the WTC related (Sept 11, 2001-June 2002) “booking sheets”. The NYPD summary of facts gleaned from one phone call to a criminal analysis cop at the 1st Precinct is: three criminal impersonations of firefighters, four arrests for guns, three for possession of stolen goods, and eleven burglaries. Why didn’t Mr. Langewiesche start here with actual, factual cases and then give us the data about who was arrested instead of his libelous blanket statements that he, himself writes are based on rumors.
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    The New York Post
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    Re: "Tribal Warfare, Deconstructing Ground Zero Myths"
    By Bob McManus, October 18, 2002.

    Bob McManus draws his remarks from William Langeweische's "American Ground: Unbuilding the World Trade Center," a book that is filled not only with many errors and mistakes, but also total fabrications.

    First, the reason for the firefighter's demonstration was not because Mayor Giuliani was "restricting off-duty firefighters' access to the site." Giuliani was covering his decision (under the guise of alleged safety concerns) to reduce the amount of on-duty personnel (not only FDNY, but NYPD and Port Authority police also) and to change the entire recovery effort to a scoop and dump operation where loved one's remains would be sifted out of the debris at the Staten Island garbage dump. He told the victims families that their loved ones were either vaporized or pulverized and that no more remains would be found. A claim we proved false with the recovery of tens of thousands of additional human remains subsequent to Mayor Giuliani reinstating the FDNY details to their previous numbers. We demonstrated to show our outrage over the disrespect being shown to the families of all the victims.

    The "tribalism" and "tribal fighting" Langeweische claims ruled at the WTC is too ridiculous to merit serious discussion. All mayoral and civilian agencies cooperated better than at any time in the history of this city. Ask the people who worked there.
    How else could the task have been accomplished in record time as it was?

    I spent many tours at the WTC site. I never saw any "looting" or "pilfering." To read the outrageous assertion that my fellow firefighters were "looting" jeans as bodies were falling around them is difficult enough to take, but McManus makes it much worse, giving credibility to the lie by saying "…that story, and others, have been floating around for awhile." This is irresponsible journalism at its all-time worst, pure and simple.

    McManus weighs in on Langeweishe's arrogant falsehood and does greater injury saying, "It's time they (the theft stories) were told to a wider audience…" Worse still, McManus casts a disgusting pall on the amazing job firefighters did at the WTC when he says, "…it is time to begin a deconstruction of the myths attending what happened downtown on Sept. 11 and thereafter."

    What myths Mr. McManus? There are no myths. The story unfolded in real time in living color on televisions across the world for everyone to see. The world witnessed the NYC Fire Department in its finest hour, end of story.


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    E40FDNYL35,

    I hope you guys won't mind a few brother from Westchester down there with you guys. I know I'm gonna try to make it on the 18th, and a few of my co-workers are working on some mutuals and such.

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    Bob McManus is also a schwienhund sheisskopf!
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    I personally would like to invite this clown down to Houston. Let him see how someone writing this way deserves to be treated, 1rst amendment or not. He ain't fit to be a hoserack. Get a rope...
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    How are lies and Garbage like this allowed to be printed and sold. 09/11 was a time that yes needs to be told and reported on but acuratley not full of lies like this academy award winner....Quite personaly someone ought to drop him screaming out of a helicopter.

    My son will be raised around this historic event...He was 1 1/2 at the time of the attacks and by the time he hits grammer and middle school it will probably be a topic in History Class he'll have to make report on. I personally don't want him reporting on Lies....Books that tell tales of 9-11 need to be stopped
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