William Langewiesche's book "American Ground: The Unbuilding of the World Trade Center" is filled with factual errors from start to finish. He knows controversy sells...and so does BULL*****. This so called author decided to go in the opposite direction with the way our BROTHERS operated that day. Lets not let this guy destroy our image, our pride, or our way of life. He says he has proof of his story, yet no one has seen any of it. Please view this website. CLICK HERE PLEASE
I feel Mr.Langewiesche's libelous statements, have attacked not only the FDNY, but the credibility of all firefighters across the United States!
The firefighters of the 9th Battalion will be at his book signings. We will be there to let people know you can't make a profit on lies and BULL*****.
South Street Seaport Museum
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11-08-2002, 10:56 AM #1
This is ALL LIES...
Last edited by E40FDNYL35; 11-08-2002 at 07:50 PM.
ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
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CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
LT. John Ginley Engine 40
FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40
Charleston 9
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11-08-2002, 11:21 AM #2
Just add him to the long list of vultures who have used these murders to line their own pockets.
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11-08-2002, 12:19 PM #3
This guy is right up there with that jerk Frenchman who put out the book saying that the attack on the Pentagon 9-11 was staged by the government. A spanner wrench to the head to both of them.
"What makes a person run into a building others are running out of?...Character."- Dennis Smith
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11-08-2002, 12:32 PM #4
E40FDNYL35,
Just got done reading the website you provided and I have come to this conclusion. This guy is a complete WANKER, this guy proves that there is a time and a place for book burnings. Have fun at the book signing GIVE HIM HELL BOYS!!!!!!!!
Oh and one more thing while you are there please do me this one small favor.........
1-ball up your fist
2-raise it about head level
3-extend your middle finger
4-and tell him MOTOWN says hi.Last edited by MOTOWN88; 11-08-2002 at 12:35 PM.
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11-08-2002, 12:45 PM #5Senior Member
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If he makes a tour to Pennyslvania, Im sure we will have someone welcome him.
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Oh yea. A nice official welcome like only a fire dept could do. A deckgun with the FFFP Foam on 6%Originally posted by quint1driver
If he makes a tour to Pennyslvania, Im sure we will have someone welcome him.
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11-08-2002, 04:04 PM #7
Still plenty of times and places to introduce ourselves.
Powell's City of Books
1005 W. Burnside
Portland OR
11/8/2002 7:30 PM
Elliott Bay Book Co.
101 S. Main St.
Seattle WA
11/9/2002 7:30 PM
Capitola Book Café
1475 41st Ave.
Capitola CA
11/10/2002 7:30 PM
A Clean Well Lighted Place
601 Van Ness Ave.
San Francisco CA
11/11/2002 7:00 PM
Stacey's Booksellers
581 Market Street
San Francisco CA
11/12/2002 12:30 PM
Easy Going Bookshop
1385 Shattuck Ave.
Berkeley CA
11/12/2002 7:30 PM
Los Angeles Public Library
630 W. 5th St.
Los Angeles CA
11/13/2002 7:00PM
Esmeralda's
1555 Camino del Mar #307
Del Mar CA
11/14/2002 7:00 PM
Tattered Cover (Lodo Store)
1628 16th Street
Denver CO
11/15/2002 7:30 PM
South Street Seaport Museum
207 Front Street
New York NY
11/18/2002 6:30 PM
Barnes & Noble
2289 Broadway at 82nd St.
New York NY
11/19/2002 7:30 PM
Politcs and Prose
5015 Connecticut Ave. NW
Washington DC
11/20/2002 7:00 PM
Wordsworth Books
30 Brattle St.
Cambridge MA
11/21/2002 7:00 PM
Odyssey Bookshop
9 College St.
South Hadley MA
11/22/2002 7:00 PM
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11-08-2002, 04:12 PM #8Forum Member
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E40FDNYL35
I am sure this individual will get what's coming to him in due time.
While those with "blinders" on may actualy absorb some of the excretment he is oozing out, be rest assurd that the real stories will prevail.
While many cannot join you and the 9th Batt. when the time is right, you know we will be there in other ways.
I remember a story a few years ago about that 3 degrees of seperation with Kevin Bacon- or something like that.
Well it's more like 1 degree with Firefighters. We tend to have lot's of contacts and that long arm will reach out and touch him some way fierce.
Take care,
RC
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This is BULL*****. I wouldn't wipe my ***** with this book. This buttmunch needs to get his facts straight instead of putting libelous syatements on paper.
"I have no ambition in this world but one, and that is to be a fireman. The position may, in the eyes of some, appear to be a lowly one; but we know the work which a fireman has to do believe that his is a noble calling."
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Fire Dept. City of New York
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11-08-2002, 07:05 PM #10
Halligan84 THANK YOU for that list. I hate to ask my BROTHERS and SISTERS for another favor but, if you and a few friends could show up to this guys book signing that would GREAT. It's about what is true and what is fiction. This book is fiction.
Remember the statue that was going to be put up in front of FDNY's Headquarters. It was not a true image. This book is not a true image. If these lies go unchallenged it will be part of the historical record.ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
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CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
LT. John Ginley Engine 40
FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40
Charleston 9
"If my job was easy a cop would be doing it."
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11-08-2002, 07:52 PM #11
William Langewiesche is a schweinhund sheisskopf!
"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY
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11-08-2002, 09:11 PM #12Member
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This MUTT is going to be in my neighborhood!!!
Mr. President, Can we make a trek to South Hadley, MA on Friday to show this schweinhund sheisskopf some cold northerner hospitality?
IF anyone can make it to South Hadley, please e-mail me at ffbrin17@netzero.net with your name and phone number. I will be working on plans to get a sizeable group organized!!!
Any others? Time for a roadtrip. Are we going to let this numbskull tarnish the image of our beloved FDNY members.
E-mail me, lets get a group together, I will call you back!
Brinwww.hatfieldfire.org
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11-08-2002, 09:37 PM #13MembersZone Subscriber
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This guy is money hungry. Greed ALWAYS ends in regret.
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11-08-2002, 09:54 PM #14
Anyone attending the book signing please attempt to find out more dates and locatioons. I don't want to miss the opporunity to meet this individual.
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11-08-2002, 10:01 PM #15
Anyone attending the book signing please attempt to find out more dates and locatioons. I don't want to miss the opporunity to meet this individual.
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11-08-2002, 11:21 PM #16
E40 - Not a problem, anything to help.
Duff - From the publishers webpage, these were all the posted locations of signings.
I looked for an email to the author but found none, the Atlantic Monthly and his publisher do have sites.
http://www.fsgbooks.com/fsg/americanground.htm
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/07/langewiesche-excerpts.htm
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11-09-2002, 01:16 AM #17MembersZone Subscriber
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Isn't it amazing that he is the only one who uncovered all of this at one of the most minutely scrutinized events in modern history. I guess all the other journalists and scribes of the various groups who participated in the WTC activities are all in on some great conspiracy to dupe the public. Yeah, right.....
Chris Minick, P.E., Firefighter II
Structures Specialist, MD-TF 1
These statements are mine and mine alone
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Is this guy just a civilian Journalist? I am kind of confused. From what I gathered after reading the link E40L35 posted, he sounds like a typical person who doesn't understand what we do. However, some of his comments are a bit brutal towards members of the FDNY. I notice he has a Book Signing near me in DC on 11/20...
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11-09-2002, 06:46 AM #19
THIS MAN LIES ABOUT OUR BROTHERS.
ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
343
CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
LT. John Ginley Engine 40
FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40
Charleston 9
"If my job was easy a cop would be doing it."
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11-09-2002, 06:53 AM #20
He said As rumor had it, the tribalism at the site extended even to choice of goods. Firemen were said to prefer watches from the Tourneau store, policemen to opt for kitchen appliances, and construction workers (who were at a disadvantage here) to enjoy picking through whatever leftovers they came upon – for instance, wine under the ruins of the Marriott hotel, and cases of contraband cigarettes that spilled from U.S. Customs vaults in the Building Six debris… After a few arrests were made, the filching shifted to the peripheral buildings, which were gradually thinned of computers until authorities wised up and posted guards.”
THE TRUTH
Throughout his articles, Mr. Langewiesche continuously uses slanderous innuendo to denigrate uniformed rescue personnel and construction workers. Such statements are libelous. Atlantic Monthly is a news magazine, Mr. Langewiesche’s “impressionism” flies in the face of the responsible reporting of facts. PAPD and the NYPD 1st Precinct are the ones with the WTC related (Sept 11, 2001-June 2002) “booking sheets”. The NYPD summary of facts gleaned from one phone call to a criminal analysis cop at the 1st Precinct is: three criminal impersonations of firefighters, four arrests for guns, three for possession of stolen goods, and eleven burglaries. Why didn’t Mr. Langewiesche start here with actual, factual cases and then give us the data about who was arrested instead of his libelous blanket statements that he, himself writes are based on rumors.ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
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CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
LT. John Ginley Engine 40
FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40
Charleston 9
"If my job was easy a cop would be doing it."
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