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    A Columbus (OH) firefighter has died as the result of an auto accident sustained while he was going home from his shift at the firehouse. This firefighter had an exceptionally busy shift on his medic truck, taking in excess of 40 runs over his 24 hour shift. As he was getting off, someone mentioned that he should take a nap before he left, but he wanted to get home to be with his family on the holiday, and opted instead to drive home.

    This has all just happened, so no one knows about LODD benefits, but in my opinion, this seems appropriate.

    I wish I had more details for everyone, but I don't yet. If I come accross anything, I will post it.

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    Very sad, reguards go out to the family.

    I don't know about LODD benefits... It seems like it would be the right thing to do, but since he was offered (suggested) to stay and nap first, it was his mis judgement on how tired he was. This is so sad
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    Here in Utah a few years ago a Captain was killed by a falling tree on her way home from her shift. She was given LODD benefits. I don't know all the exact info, but for some reason they considered it LODD because she was on her way home from a shift.
    40 calls in 24 hours?!?! That is way too much! That rig should be traded after 12 hours so the medics don't run 24 straight with no sleep... but that is just my opinion.

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    40+ runs in 24 hours?! If true, it sounds like the Columbus Fire Department is making money at the firefighers expense. Yikes! Where is the Local with all this going on? That is unacceptable!

    ... and I thought I've run on busy units...
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    This question came up a number of years ago in my home county. As the law states (Unsure if it is Texas or Federal, but I believe Federal), if you leave your house and start going directly to work, with no stops in between and you are involved in an accident before arriving at your work location, then it is considered "On Duty." The same applies for getting off duty. If you leave your work location and are going home, with no stops in between, then it is considered "On Duty" if your involved in an accident before arriving at home. The Medic in the case down here won the right of having his incident considered an "On Duty" incident and not having to use his occrued sick time.

    Either way, our Brother from Colombus is sadly gone. Hopefully the department will do the right thing and take care of his family as they deserve to be taken care of no matter what.

    Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and brother and sister fire fighters in Colombus.
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    Well here on my department (volunteer) when the alarm goes off and you get en route you are on duty and on the way home from the call you are on duty. In my opinion if he was going straight home from his shift then he should be considered on duty cause if it wasnt for his shift he probably wouldnt have been there and had the accident so therefore I vote LODD.

    My prayers go to the friends, fellow firefighters, and most of all his family as they go through this tragedy here this close to Christmas.

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    Hey!!! CJ or BaTruckin....Didn't a similar accident occur a year or two back with a female Baltimore City Medic...Heading home after a busy shift, crashed in upper B Co.?? This issue of fatigue and Medics who work a "24" is long overdue for very close scrutiny by the unions (some medics are represented by other than IAFF locals, and worse , some are not represented at all) Not only is the Medic's well being at stake, but a tired medic can harm a patient as well. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family in ohio....Stay Safe....
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    I think it's been more than a couple of years. I do vaguely remember the accident, but the details are kind of fuzzy. If I remember correctly, the paramedic in question had not been on the job very long. I have no idea if this incident was considered as an LODD.

    I had a friend who was a Baltimore City paramedic back in the mid 1980's. It wasn't too unusual for him to pick up his unit at the station and be on the road for his entire shift, not returning to quarters until it was time to turn the rig over to the next crew. He lasted about a year before he was totally burned out and went to work in a neighboring county as a dispatcher.

    It seems like we treat our EMS people worse than we treat medical students, and we all have heard the horror stories about what they go through. However, with so many people trying to get jobs with career departments in the Mid-Atlantic region, there isn't a whole lot of incentive for employers to improve working conditions as there is a willing group of people to take the jobs (except in DC, apparently).
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    Originally posted by ffspo0k
    A Columbus (OH) firefighter has died as the result of an auto accident sustained while he was going home from his shift at the firehouse. This firefighter had an exceptionally busy shift on his medic truck, taking in excess of 40 runs over his 24 hour shift. As he was getting off, someone mentioned that he should take a nap before he left, but he wanted to get home to be with his family on the holiday, and opted instead to drive home.

    This has all just happened, so no one knows about LODD benefits, but in my opinion, this seems appropriate.

    I wish I had more details for everyone, but I don't yet. If I come accross anything, I will post it.
    why, how nice of you to post it here, but find yourself unable to walk downstairs and TELL THE REST OF US.

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    Post More??........

    Has anyone picked up any more info on this??
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    ffspo0k,

    Keep us posted...

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    I wish I had more information, but I don't yet. I work tomorrow, I'll head over to a CFD station and ask whats up..

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    I'm very sorry guys for passing on bad information, but I just got back from a CFD station where I found out that the firefighter did not die, but he is still in the hospital, not sure of his condition.

    Again I'm sorry for passing on more information, I will post more when I find out more..

    Sorry

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    Hey, don't apologize. It's good to hear the brother is still with us. I hope everything works out for him. Whenever we can take someone out of the LODD column it's a good day!
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