What does your dispatch say for calls?
Dwelling?
House Fire?
Other?
Motor Vehicle Accident?
Car Crash?
Other?
Anyone use 10 codes?
Camden County Communications uses Dwelling, Building, Motor Vehicle Accident, etc. No 10 codes used.
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12-28-2002, 02:37 PM #1
Terminology
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12-28-2002, 05:04 PM #2Member
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Usually (depending on the dispatcher) they will say Structure Fire, and usually Motor Vehicle Accident or just MVA
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12-28-2002, 08:34 PM #3
California style...
House fire- Structure fire, structure response, Vehicle
fire threatening structure
Car accicent- MVA is not a good term since it sounds
too much live CVA, MCI, MVI. Also, they are not always
"accidents" or involve a "motor vehicle".
INSTEAD..we use "Traffic collision". This is better
since it encompasses a wide range and cant be confused
with other incidents. Example-
"T/C with injuries", "T/C auto vs. ped or train or
structure". "T/C unknown injuries", "T/C, multiple
vehicles".
Get it? Pretty easy, descriptive and flexible.
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12-28-2002, 09:00 PM #4Forum Member
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Structure fire
Vehicle fire threatening structure
Refuse fire threatening structure
Vehicle fire
Grass fire
Fire Other (If you can't fit it into any of the above then it is a "Fire Other")
10-50 PI
10-50 Unknown
Other then the 10-50 for crash, there are no other 10 Codes used.
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12-29-2002, 02:19 AM #5Forum Member
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In Ohio....
In are little part of Ohio (Jefferson County) we are toned for structure fire, MVA, Unknown emergency or smoke investigation anything else and they ussually say it just how it is called in to them.
Also we use the 10 codes but ares, are diffrent then what most people think. We use are to siganl the status of the truck
10-1 On air
10-2 Enroute
10-3 On scene
10-4 OK
10-5 enroute to hospital
10-7 Clear from scene (returning to station)
10-8 In station
10-9 Out of service
10-10 Call County dispatch
These codes are all proceeded by the trucks call Number (ie. Engine 8 is 3218 station number 32, 1 Meaning engine and 8 number assigned by dept.
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dwelling fire, mvc or all out. um...brush fire, alarm sounding, smoke detector soundind, and so on..... no 10-10 codes.
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We'll down here in Deep Run NC we swithced from 10 codes to plain English.
Structure Fire
Vehicle accident
Vehicle accident with injuries
Vehicle accident with pin in/ injuries
Vehicle versus pedestrian
Brush Fire
Brush fire approaching structure
EMS assingment first responders
Service assignment (trees down, lights needed, traffic control)
And we say
Responding, On scene , Under Control, En route Back to quarters, All units back in quarters assignement complete.
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12-30-2002, 02:20 AM #8
Usually, but sometimes depending on the dispatcher...Structure fire, brush fire, vehicular fire, vehicular accident w/ unknown injuries, with possible/confirmed entrapment, etc. If it is a vehicle vs. pedestrian or something like that, it would likely just come across as "car/truck/whatever vs. pedestrian." No 10-Codes, our dispatchers don't need to be more confused than they already are.
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It really depends on which dispatcher is working, but I have heard:
Dwelling Fire
Structure Fire
Apartment Building Fire
Vehicle Fire
Car Fire
Van Fire
MVA with injuries
MVA with rescue
MVA with entrapment
EMS Assist
Lift Assist
Automatic Fire Alarm
CO Alarm
Waterflow Alarm
Water Rescue
Special AssignmentAny statements I have made are my statements, and my statements alone.
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12-30-2002, 10:48 PM #10
we have 10 codes rangin from 10-1 to 10-100.
usually they say 10-70 structure fire or dwelling.
also say 10-50 mva orcar accident
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here in Bureau County (one of the largest counties in illinois) we our county 911 pretty much just tells us what it is in plain english. we use a few 10-codes pretty much all our dept uses is 10-4 some of the others use other ones but not many
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12-31-2002, 04:19 PM #12
Sorry guys...
Sorry guys...the 10 codes are old and out of date. Too
confusing and fuzzy. Also, again MVA is also not ideal.
More departments on the west are using "T/C" or
"traffic collision".
More broad, descriptive and less air time to broadcast.
Try it sometime...Bou
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In Gloucester County
Dwelling-House fires
Building-Commerical
Structure-Detached garage or shed
Or for a Second Alarm+(Working Fire)
A________ all hands opeatering
Like ex.
Tones: Batt. 92 in Westville, 262 Summit Ave
a dwelling all hands opeating
Motor Vehicle Crash- any type
Motor Vehicle Crash with Entrapment
Vehicle- Burning car
Commerical Motor Vehicle Crash- Commerical types
Commerical Motor Vehicle Crash with Entrapment
Commerical Vehicle-Burning vehicle\
there is alot more but what u guys asked forLast edited by WestvilleJr73; 12-31-2002 at 06:33 PM.
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Re: Sorry guys...
Fine, but my dispatch center still uses MVA. If you don't like that then you can take that up with them, rather than telling me once again that "T/C" is better. I was already made aware of that once, and repeating it again has done nothing that saying it the first time has, with the exception of irritating me over the fact that you feel it necessary to tell me that the system my dispatch center uses stinks, simply because of the fact that I tell you what system my dispatch center does use.Originally posted by CALFFBOU
Sorry guys...the 10 codes are old and out of date. Too
confusing and fuzzy. Also, again MVA is also not ideal.
More departments on the west are using "T/C" or
"traffic collision".
More broad, descriptive and less air time to broadcast.
Try it sometime...BouAny statements I have made are my statements, and my statements alone.
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12-31-2002, 09:55 PM #15
Re: Re: Sorry guys...
Hey dude...chill out. My take on being in theOriginally posted by JRFireman
Fine, but my dispatch center still uses MVA.
If you don't like that then you can take that
up with them, rather than telling me once again
that "T/C" is better. I was already made aware
of that once, and repeating it again has done
nothing that saying it the first time has, with
the exception of irritating me over the fact
that you feel it necessary to tell me that the
system my dispatch center uses stinks, simply
because of the fact that I tell you what system
my dispatch center does use.
fire service is doing the best job possible
and communication is very key. So if we (you
and me) are going something odd, fuzzy or
out dated, I think we (you and me) should always
try to improve on any subject. Again MVA sounds
like TIA, CVA, MCI and MVI (know what those are??)
It just makes the job easier and radio traffic
sound better.
-Bou (formerly a Fire Communication Center
Manager and Dispatcher Trainer)
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Re: Re: Re: Sorry guys...
Actually, I don't know what those are.Originally posted by CALFFBOU
Again MVA sounds
like TIA, CVA, MCI and MVI (know what those are??)
My county-wide dispatch center still uses MVA, and I do not really have the power to change that at the moment. I apologize for my previous statement, but it just got me upset that you felt the need to come back and tell us once again that "T/C" is better, when we already knew that.Any statements I have made are my statements, and my statements alone.
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01-03-2003, 12:36 AM #17
What they are...
-TIA- "Transient Icemic Attack" a temporary
blockage in the brain. Also known as a
"mini stroke".
-CVA- "Cerebral Vascular Accident" basicly
a stroke or blockage in the brain.
-MCI- Mass casualty incident. A major incident
with lots of casualtys. (dead people)
-MVI- Multi-Victim Incident. Lots of people,
not dead.
As you can see, the different grouping of letters
can be confusing. So thats why its recommended to
keep it simple when possible.
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Here in my neck on Louisiana they say structure fire, smoke smell, automatic alarm, grass fire, bruch fire,grass and woods fire, car fire, signal 20-I(auto accident w/ injuries), signal 20-E 9auto accident requireing extrication. All ems call are done by signals also.
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Boukca (lol, I liked that old name of yours...), an MCI doesn't necessarily mean a lot of death. It is an incident (MVA, WMD, Bioterrorism, etc.) that causes a strain on personnel, or there are more victims than there are responders. Take, for example, a 45 car pileup on the interstate. The odds are that you won't get at least 45 ambulances on scene, this is an MCI. With the proper triage and mutual aid, these situations can be handled with as few deaths as possible.
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01-05-2003, 12:54 PM #20
GLAD YOU LIKED THE OLD NAME. THERE IS A VERY CLEAROriginally posted by WFDjr1
an MCI doesn't necessarily mean a lot of death.
It is an incident (MVA, WMD, Bioterrorism, etc.)
that causes a strain on personnel, or there are
more victims than there are responders. Take, for
example, a 45 car pileup on the interstate. The
odds are that you won't get at least 45 ambulances
on scene, this is an MCI.
DIFFERNECE BETWEEN AN "MVI" AND A "MCI" REGARDLESS
OF HOW MANY PATIENTS vs. RESPONDER RATIO. THE THING
IS AN MVI HAVE LIVING PATIENTS. (BIG CAR PILEUP)
AND MCI IS LIKE DISASTERS, ETC AND NO LIVING PEOPLE.
MOST COMMON WOULD BE A PLANE CRASH.
BUT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
HOPE THAT CLEARS IT UP...
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