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    Question Helment Color?

    Doing a bit of traveling from time to time, and looking at what the other guys and gals in this business do, and of course, picking up ideas on how to do things better when I get home. One question came up recently when someone asked "Why does every other dept have different color helments?" Our County uses White for all officers, yellow or black for firefighters (Individual's choice), Blue for those members who participate in an "EMS only" position (not many) and, last, Red is assigned when a new member starts riding, and indicates that person is limited to exterior work on the fireground. The Red helment is exchanged for Black/Yellow when training requirements are completed. Any fireground in our area has 95% White and Black/Yellow Helments operating. Someone said (and I have not looked it up) that helment color is referenced in a NFPA standard somewhere. That wouldn't suprise me, but we wouldn't change anyway. What do you use, and why?? Stay Safe....
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    Our dept just uses white helmets for chief and assistant chief, red for capt. and LT. while yellow for the firefighters. for the medical people we just use a small 1 inch TDH approved sticker. I myself prefer the black helmets so that's what i wear. I'm also the only one of my dept that wears a traditional helmet. I've seen some depts near us that have safety officers that wear orange helmets.
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    We used to have that whole color thing. White- Chief, Red- Capt., Blue-Lt., Orange- Safety Officer, Black- FF/PM

    The Chief has decided to go back to all black but with different color shields, except for chief officers which will still keep white. The change over has been slow though so far. I personally like seeing the different color, makes it a lot easier to indentify the officer from a distance.
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    My department is almost the same as RyanEMVFD's. White for Chief/Assistant Chief. Red for Captains and Lts. Yellow for firefighters. We use nothing to indicate EMS people. Probationary and Junior members have green reflective triangles on the helmet.
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    We're pretty much the same as everyone else!

    White - Chief & Dep Chief
    Yellow - Captain (we only have 2 & they are volunteers)
    Red - Lt's (full time & volunteers)
    Black - Firefighter (all)
    Other than that, we have a reflective sticker on our helmets that tell the Chief or IC what level of training we have - probation won't have a sticker on their helmets....
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    I think the only constant is the white caps (chiefs) in all of these different depts. Here in Cincinnati we work it a little differently. Red helmets for Engine work and black helmets for Truckers. That is it, outside of having helmet tags for your company, and the officer wears a different colored tag to differentiate between roughnecks

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    GOD!!.....compared to you all my county uses the whole rainbow!

    well lets see here...

    white = Chief (safety, pio...stuff like that)
    Red = captian
    Blue = Leutient
    Yellow = Fire fighter 2's & 1's, Fado's, medics, and probies
    orange = probies (red stripers) who cant do anything but hump hose
    Black = emt only (volly)
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    Cool Waiting for "magenta".......

    Our county runs a little different:

    White - Chief officers
    Red - Captains and Lts.
    Yellow - Firefighters
    Orange - Paramedic Firefighters

    The county just North of us runs:

    White - Chief officers
    Orange - Captains
    Red - Lts.
    Yellow - Firefighters
    Blue - Paramedic Firefighters

    We just switched to conventional helmets....I pushed really hard to have all black helmets, and the rank designator would be different colored reflective trapazoids, but my union brothers shot it down. They wanted to be like the rest of our county.

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    Paid department has,
    White= Chief & DC
    Red= Captains
    Yellow= Engineers & Firefighters
    Blue is for Fire Marshal

    Volunteer department is,
    White= Chief & Asst. Chiefs
    Black with White front is Captains
    Black with Red front is Lieutenants
    Black with Black front is Firefighters

    Paid department isn't a traditional helmet department but the volunteer job is!

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    White- Batallion Chiefs & admin officers
    Yellow- Company Officers (Capt & Lt)
    Black- Firefighters
    Red- Rescue Company Firefighters
    Orange- Recruit Firefighters
    Blue- EMS (provided by private company)
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    FDNY--------Chief Officers (White-Batt & Dep)
    Company Officers & Firefighters (Black only)

    EMS (Red/Orange/Yellow) depending on whether their FDNY-EMS or Private.

    The differance is in the frontpiece mainly: Engine-Black
    Ladder-Red
    Marine-Green..........(SOC)
    Squad-Yellow.......... (SOC)
    Rescues & Haz-Mat-Blue.(SOC)
    Probationary (Orange)
    Special Operations Staff (Orange w/a split colored Helmet.....Yellow/Black
    "With the above, Officers color is reversed"
    Deputys & Battalion Chiefs (Gold)

    ALL EMS wear a different type Helmet also and in NYC there is a Fire Patrol (Insurance Company Crews) they wear a Firefighters Helmet painted Red.....not part of FDNY

    Helmets "around town" are like lights, relevant to PD & FD! Someday some genuis somewhere will adopt a Nation-Wide format, then no matter where you are, you'll know whether it's the Gas Company or an Emergency Vehicle coming up on you?

    Get a hold of some pics of Ground Zero about Day 3+...........you'll see some color there, for sure!
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    Pretty much the same as everyone else:

    white - Chief and Captain's
    red - Vol. officers
    black - Career and Vol Firefighters
    yellow - Prob. Vol Firefighters
    orange - Explorers

    We're slowly switching back to traditional style helmets. Right now, it's the individual's option as to which helmet they want to wear, and people are starting to go back.
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    chief and asst.'s - white
    all others - yellow

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    chiefs and assn'ts-white
    capt-red
    lt-yellow
    ff-black

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    Chief is white.
    EVERYBODY else is black!
    Officers have different front pieces. But there are three salty officers who have dirtied up their front pieces so much you can't see 'em! I'm pushing for pretty much the same scheme as everyone else here, to wit:

    Chief & A/C= white
    Captain= red
    Lt.= yaller
    FF= black

    That way, no matter how crusty they are, you should still be able to tell rank....
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    Chief, Dep. Chief - White
    Lts - Red
    FF - Yellow
    EMT - Blue

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    We use the following:
    Chief, Asst Chief---White
    Capt. & Lt.---------Red
    FF.-----------------Black
    Chaplin-------------Yellow (He fights fire also)
    EMT's---------------Blue

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    Chiefs - white
    Line Officers - Natural w/ Red furnace
    Safety Officers - Natural w/ White & Green furnace
    FF's - Natural w/ Black Furnace
    Probies - Yellow tupperware
    Juniors - Orange tupperware

    Check this out, also ... Another Helmet Color Thread

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    About the same as everyone else......

    Chiefs - White
    Capt. - Red
    Everyone else - Black

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