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    Does anyone in any department have any problems with members drinking and driving FD apparatus? I am curious to know, we have members that think they are above the rules. We also have members that show up to a seen half intoxicate. Please let me know...............thanks
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    We don't have any problems in our department with peole drin king and driving. everyone has at some point or other cut some unlucky SOB out of their cars when the attempted to do it. they understand that it is an easy way to achieve a Darwin Award.
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    Good grief....If you even have to ask the question....

    Do you want the police coming to your burglary in progress drunk? Come on, don't even start a post on a safety issue that is obvious.

    Sick em' George!

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    Is Billy Joel on your department. He must have been responding to the station when he had his accident the other day. If they are that ignorant they shouldn't be a firefighter. Your Fire Board should be the one addressing this issue. They are probably the ones doing it. Some people don't understand the responsibilities that being a board member entails. They just want to be on it because Dad was on it. If you ever have a fire fighter killed because of this they will learn their duties real quick. Alcohol or drugs have no place at a fire. It is hard to think under pressure sober let alone drunk.

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    Is this question being asked because somebody forgot that the aerial truck does not fit under the awning of the liquor store drive-up window?

    The Doc is ROFLMAO now.

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    Sick em' George!
    I'm so tired.

    No, I have no problem with a drunk FF driving the apparatus.

    (Let's try that approach to see if we can stop this nonsense)

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    How come these questions almost always come from people in NY?

    Does anyone in any department have any problems with members drinking and driving FD apparatus?
    No, they get charged with DUI and are expelled from company.

    we have members that think they are above the rules.
    We also have members that show up to a seen half intoxicate
    Show them the Exit door.

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    Bones,
    Nope it's because we had a higher tolerance for driving while under the influence.

    Now to be serious. I wont offer any advice on this issue. I think it has been done to death. But I would like to say that those New Yorkers that are asking these questions are definitely in the minority. Please dont paint us with a broad brush.
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    George, I like your approach.

    I'm all in favor of it. As a matter of fact, I'm drunk right now. I'm actually driving the tower right now also. We have these neat computers in the front so I can post on Firehouse.com and drive to the scene at the same time!

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    OMG what are the chances ..... TWICE in one week we deliberately send the unsuspecting to our worst nightmare .... the Beer Ban Thread

    uuurrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

    I really wonder though, if carpntir happens to be the one, the only .... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!!

    Maybe the other one was legit, but this post STINKS of someone trying to rile everyone up. Look at the way its worded
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    Perhaps you HAVEN'T seen the thousands of posts on this subject.
    Perhaps you have just awakened from a long Winter's nap.
    Perhaps you are "doing research".
    Perhaps you are having some fun.
    Perhaps you have the problem that you state.
    Perhaps I can help.
    On the sign out front of your fire station, post this message:
    WANTED; NON-DRINKERS. DRINKERS NEED NOT APPLY. THOSE POSITIONS ARE ALREADY FILLED.
    Perhaps, this could cause a renaissance of sorts for your fire department.
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    I think if your apparatus are drinking and driving, you should trade them in for some different apparatus (read the thread title again if you don't get this).

    I cannot believe there is any discussion about this. I will not start again.
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    Well since I'm new here this is my first post on the subject.

    1. If your full time then you should not be drinking at all because you are on duty.
    2. If you care POC or Volly, then well in my opinion then once you crack a beer or what ever you shut your pager off.

    We all may think that we know out limit but you know what you never know and that is what will get you or your buddy killed.

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    I would like to see a new rule for the forums.

    Would you be willing to put the topic that
    you are about to enter as a new thread, IN YOUR LOCAL
    NEWSPAPER AS A HEADLINE?
    If we can force people to think about what they are
    about to post maybe common sense will prevail and
    topics such as this will never appear on a public forum again.
    It amazes me that we complain about outside agencies
    attacking the fire service when we have so many fire service
    personnel/agencies that are willing to shoot us in the foot.

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    I'm not so sure that I'm following what your point. I would think that this would be a place where some of the more NON-TALKABLE things that relate to Fire Fighting and Fire Fighters can be talked about.

    Granted again I have not been around for a long time, but I find things like this topic important to me as a new face, to have a better understanding of the CODE to being a fire fighter.

    There are Rules and there are Regulations, and then there are the things that are not written that sometimes needs to be address and what place better to do that then here.

    Just my 2cents.

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    What difference would it make? Most people don't have the guts to identify who they are and where they are from anyway.

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    All in favor of a background check, psych exam, medical exam, and a FRICKEN IQ TEST to join the fire department, let's see yer hands!!!

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    IQ Test Let's see putting our lives on the line by walking into a burning building and doing it willing. I'm not sure we want to see the results of this test.


    On a more serious note, your are correct but these IQ deficiencies should be weeded out during training and certification boards.

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    Consider me an AYE vote.
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    My head hurts. I mean, it really hurts.

    I'm with George. I've just installed a keg-erator in our front-line engine.

    I will be looking to put one in our ambulance, and maybe the tanker. Actually, maybe I'll do the tanker first-- it seems like you sit around in that rig quite frequently. Might as well toss back a few cold ones waiting your turn to dump!!

    If anyone has fire-related tap handles, please let me know. I'd like to keep a fire theme in the rigs.

    (side note to Josh-- please excuse my tardiness in weighing in here. I've been busier than a one-arm monkey throwing poop at the Bronx Zoo.)
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    Come on guys. This is an easy problem to solve.

    Designated Drivers!!! The rest of the guys on the rig can get as drunk as they wanna be as long as the driver's sober!

    jaybird, what a great idea. I thought those engines in Colorado with the ice cream machines were cool. I'll bet if your engine was CAFS equipped, you could use it to power the keg. No bulky CO2 cylinders to get in your way.

    I hope someone stocked the beer, er, I mean, pop machine at the station. I'm gettin' thirsty thinkin' about it.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!
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    We got rid of our biggest drinker WHEN THE CHIEF QUIT! 10AM and he reeked of beer!

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    One of the questions on my original oral exam what the following. And keep in mind there was a specific reason why they where asking this question.


    If at the scene of a fire at a liqueur store the IC asks you to take a few cases of beer and place them in his truck for inspection as evidence what do you do?

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