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    Default what works the best???

    We seem to be at a loss in my dept for a good, cheap and easy way to clean our helmets. We have Ben Franklin II's for helmets. Something that you have found that works well and does not damage the helmet or any decals that may be on the helmet.

    Know this sounds kinda stupid but I said I would ask.(why clean it anyway??)

    Personally, I think the best is a bottle of SoftScrub and some elbow grease.

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    Default Why?

    If you want your helmet to be clean, then don't use it ......otherwise you can use a soft brush and mild dish soap on the outside and liquid laundry soap and warm water on the inside. Do not use any abrasives they will scratch the shell. Let the helmet air dry.
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    A Doctor needs to be sterile, a Chef, clean........you are speaking of Firefighters right? By nature of the business, if your Helmets clean, you can't be doing much anyway.

    Only for annual inspections was the Helmet required to be "presentable", not clean. Some of what burns, leaves lasting effects on all Helmets.
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    Default Ummm...yeah....

    1st- Like someone said, mild soap (Joy, Dawn Costco)
    and warm water. A product called "simple green". www.simplegreen.com might help. Make sure
    you dilute the SimpleGreen first. I havent used it
    alot, but its pretty popular.

    2nd- A fire helmet, much like the rest of your PPE
    should be properly cleaned and maintained. I rather
    have clean gear then some Doctor telling me about
    how cancer started on my neck and is starting
    to spread. Or sitting alone in a hospital bed waiting
    for your next Chemo shock all because you "got crust".
    What a joke, give me a break!

    Clean your PPE!!! Impress me with your skills, education
    and knowledge. Not crust, dirt and grime. Please invite
    me to your retirement party, not funeral.

    And there is my favorite- "Think progressive,
    not old school."
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    Default Cleanliness is next to ...

    Well, I'm not going to use religion to make a point. But, I do agree with CALFFBOU on this.

    Studies have shown that the dirtier your gear, the less likely it is to protect you as it was designed to.

    I don't need dirty or burnt gear to prove that I can do my job when called to do it. That mentality is much like refusing to wear SCBA to prove what a tough "smoke eater" you are.

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    I am with CalffBOU.............Simple Green is the best.......cuts gunk like a knife for sure..........
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    Windex is fairly gentle and good for spot cleaning, dish soap and water. I pull my liner out when it gets slimey enough to bother me and hand wash the sweat band in the sink then let it dry. I hate to say it, but Bouca is right, clean it after every call, at least with a hose off.

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    Wait, I thought TupperWare was dishwasher safe?




    Go easy with the Simple Green. It eats through sticker adhesive (read: tetrahedron's, crescents, fronts, maltese crosses, SOL's, flags, etc.).
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    Originally posted by Resq14
    Wait, I thought TupperWare was dishwasher safe?
    My department issued Cairns 1010 is plastic so I
    guess you are referring to it. Funny how when it
    really comes down to it, TupperWare is really rubber
    but Phenix and Cairns make plastic/carbon helemts.

    Kinda shows a person's ignorance and education,
    dont-cha-know.

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    Default Re: Really?

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU


    My department issued Cairns 1010 is plastic so I
    guess you are referring to it. Funny how when it
    really comes down to it, TupperWare is really rubber
    but Phenix and Cairns make plastic/carbon helemts.

    Kinda shows a person's ignorance and education,
    dont-cha-know.
    ............ Must be nice to be right all the time.

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    Wait, I thought TupperWare was dishwasher safe?
    I know of a Deputy Chief who will disagree with this. At our last dinner, he was presented with a memorial piece of Tupperware...mostly due to full response for reported structure fire that ended up being Tupperware lid burning in dishwasher.....at his house!
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    Default Re: Really?

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU
    My department issued Cairns 1010 is plastic
    Funny, went to Cairn's web site and they describe the 1010 as "actually made of fiberglass-high temp resin shell", not plastic at all!
    Kinda shows a person's ignorance and education,
    dont-cha-know.
    Couldn't agree more.

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    Calffbou........what does a presentable helmet have to do with cancer? My implication was......a firefighters job is dirty, and thus so does their gear get. There are carbons and pvc's and all matters of unburned residue on our gear, some actually requiring decontamination. This residue will stay on, no matter what color liquid soaps you use. Therefor "it is dirty". If "Stickers" are the problem, paint the numerals or letters on with the same paint used in the Helmet. "CRUST" as you call it......does not come from oven-burned helmets, but rather a world of experience. Since you research so carefully your opinions......please lead me to the source of neck cancer cases coming from crustie helmets and other "real" firefighters gear!
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    Default Re: Re: Really?

    Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
    ............ Must be nice to be right all the time.
    I will be the first to admit I am probably more
    wrong than right. The thing is I learn from my
    mistakes. I also research and learn from others.

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    Default This one is easy...

    Originally posted by RdRunnr
    Calffbou........what does a presentable
    helmet have to do with cancer?
    This one is easy. The dirt, grime, debris
    and other nasty stuff can collect and
    build up on your helmet. As you wear the
    helmet, that junk starts to roll off with
    water or just plain usage. PLUS, you use
    your hand to don your dirty helmet, right?
    Then what do you do...rub your ear, scratch
    your neck, rub your eyes...where does that
    dirty grime go? In your pores.

    Best to keep ALL of your PPE clean to
    avoid contact with any type of cancer
    or any other job related hazardous
    nasty stuff.

    Hope that answers your question.
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    Thanks for all your posts. I will look at the Simply Green.

    I believe you need a good mixutre of old school AND new school. Personally I guess I would rather rinse off the big chunks and leave it. Shows character I think. Anyway, I thought I would check and see.

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    When a friend says that he would rather come to my retirement party than my funeral that just about says it all. Clean Gear is safer gear. Fact. Stay Safe....
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    Amen hwoods.

    I don't need my gear to do my talking for me. I used to think I needed to impress other ffs with my crusty gear. Then I grew up.
    My bunkers get cleaned after every good fire and I clean the rest of my stuff on a regular basis. I have found that the same soap that cleans the grime off my hands takes the same off my helmet, without much damage.

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    Default Re: Really?

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU


    Kinda shows a person's ignorance and education,
    dont-cha-know.
    Whoa. Someone needs to take a dose of lighten-up meds.

    In your quest to enlighten and "save" the jakes of the world, consider a leading risk factor in heart disease: stress.

    What do you think you do to people when you insist that their relatively safe traditions (the ones that pale in comparison to the risks we face everyday in civilian life... you know, the ones that you apparently abhor) are not compatible with the fire service? You stress them out. Therefore, it could be hypothesized that in your quest to make the fire service a safer place, you are in fact doing more harm than good.

    This is far more likely than "neck cancer" (?) from a helmet.

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    Default Re: Re: Really?

    Originally posted by Resq14


    Whoa. Someone needs to take a dose of
    lighten-up meds. In your quest to enlighten
    and "save" the jakes of the world, consider
    a leading risk factor in heart disease: stress.

    What do you think you do to people when you
    insist that their relatively safe traditions (
    the ones that pale in comparison to the risks
    we face everyday in civilian life... you know,
    the ones that you apparently abhor) are not
    compatible with the fire service? You stress
    them out. Therefore, it could be hypothesized
    that in your quest to make the fire service
    a safer place, you are in fact doing more
    harm than good.

    This is far more likely than "neck cancer"
    (?) from a helmet.
    All that typing above is a far reach. I never
    said I was going to save any Jakes or change
    the fire service. Again, just throwing out
    some common sense and basic knowledge about
    PPE maintenance. Enough has been said, we
    dont need to go back and forth on this one.

    As for SimpleGreeen, I have used the product
    several times with success. But I am not
    100% knowledable about them. Gotta just
    check them out for yourself.

    HWoods- Thanks for the backing.

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    Default Re: Re: Re: Really?

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU


    All that typing above is a far reach. I never
    said I was going to save any Jakes or change
    the fire service. Again, just throwing out
    some common sense and basic knowledge about
    PPE maintenance.
    Haha

    And neck cancer from a helmet isn't? I'll side with Rdrunnr on that one.

    I'd be concerned if the structural integrity of my shell was compromised by some chemical so that it could not withstand an impact. If the fire is hot enough to be melting helmets... you're about to have greater problems than a 57 degree reduction in helmet thermal performance. I've yet to see leather melt.

    I'm all for safe gear. But if your helmet is a little discolored and dirty... BFD. My helmet: surprise, it's clean. But that's probably more from a lack of any type of fires, though I've been known to rinse it off with a hose when it does get dirty.

    When they're found unattended, we somtimes borrow "white helmets", and--when they're not looking--we make them so clean and waxed that CALFBOU would be proud. They hate it. Simplegreen, wax, then some spray-on instant shine. laff.

    Department-wide, all but a few are in the issued fiberglass 1010's.
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    Default Re: Re: Really?

    Originally posted by Resq14
    Whoa. Someone needs to take a dose of lighten-up meds.
    AMEN!

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    Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Really?

    Originally posted by Resq14

    we make them so clean and waxed that CALFBOU
    would be proud. They hate it. Simplegreen,
    wax, then some spray-on instant shine. laff.
    Please quote me where I demanded fire helmets
    needed to super clean, buffed or waxed to a
    shine. I just answered the guys question
    on what to use to clean the thing. Why dont
    you act a little more professional?
    As for fire304 and his "Amen", do the same.
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    Default Smart FF...

    Originally posted by firemangeorge

    I don't need my gear to do my talking for me.
    I used to think I needed to impress other ffs
    with my crusty gear. Then I grew up. My bunkers
    get cleaned after every good fire and I clean
    the rest of my stuff on a regular basis. I have
    found that the same soap that cleans the grime
    off my hands takes the same off my helmet,
    without much damage.

    Clean gear is safe gear. And it shows your pride.
    Probably one of the most intelligent postings
    I have seen in here yet. Good job.

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    Lightbulb Grow up

    Originally posted by CALFFBOU
    Why dont you act a little more professional? As for fire304 and his "Amen", do the same.
    Somebody sounds a little defensive here

    So Boukca, I'm curious, how many times have you been banned from these forums? More times than most of the rest of us I'd wager. Lighten up a little and don't be so defensive. As I recall, you started the "less than profesional" posting with this one:
    Kinda shows a person's ignorance and education,
    dont-cha-know.

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