1. #1
    Permanently Removed
    CALFFBOU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    6,520

    Smile The Ten Points of Leadership

    In the past some of you have asked what makes a
    good Officer/Captain or stated you have or had a
    problem with a Supervisor. I just came across
    this article published in the Orange County
    Fireman (CA) by Nat. Fire Academy author
    Al Mozingo at www.firemanager.com. Hope it
    enlightens you as it did me.

    THE TEN POINTS OF LEADERSHIP

    1. BE TOUGH- Set your standards high and encourage
    your people to meet them. Tell them what your
    standards and expectations are.

    2. GET OUT FROM BEHIND YOUR DESK- In the modern
    day vernacular we call it "Management by Wondering
    Around." Go see whats happening for yourself. Your
    people will see you are interested in their problems
    and welfare.

    3. FIND THE CRITICAL PATH TO SUCCESS- Prioritize
    your activities. Donít waste time on trivial matters.
    Become personally involved. Donít leave tings to chance.

    4. BE SENSITIVE- Listen to people. Be perceptive and
    communicate offen. Empathize with your people. Ask for
    input, seek ideas. Be innovative and creative.

    5. DONíT TAKE THINGS FOR GRANTED- Keep on top of things.
    Donít assume anything. If something needs to be fixed-
    do it. Donít procrastinate- do it and then monitor it.

    6. SEARCH OUT THE PROBLEMS- "If you think there are no
    problems in your organization, you are ignorant." Search
    out the problems, find them. Foster an environment that
    encourages open, clear communications. If you shun the
    problems they will get bigger.

    7. DONíT ALIBI- Just take care of the problem, fix it.
    We know that people make mistakes. So donít be defensive
    when things go wrong. Nothing is worst than when someone
    who has an alibi for everything that goes wrong.

    8. DONíT PROCRASTINTE- The problem only get worse if you procrastinate. Therefore, address the problems when they
    arise. Donít put off hard decisions- make them. It really
    wont be easier tomorrow. Just do it!

    9. DONíT TOLERATE INCOMPETENCE- People who are lazy
    and/or disinterested should be replaced. You need people
    to get the job done. Have the courage to terminate their
    assignment. Use positive motivation- praise people when
    they are doing good work, recognize their efforts. Then
    they will do even better.

    10. BE HONEST- Integrity is one of the most important
    aspects to someone's character. People wont trust you
    if youre dishonest. Tell it like it is- be up front with
    people. Create an atmosphere of trust and confidence. Be
    an example for your people.

    To Sum It Up- Your task is to be a leader. It requires
    hard work, enthusiasm and sensitivity to whats going on.
    Establish your expectations, be involved and listen.
    Remember integrity and honestly is basic to eveything.
    Practice these ten points for success as a Leader.

  2. #2
    Member
    RdRunnr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New York/New Mexico a 5,000 mile commuter
    Posts
    55

    Thumbs down

    Right off the bat Calff, I disagree with you and the author.
    On #1)- It is most important to realize not all of us are the same. I've seen real tough Officers expect their tolerance for Fire Duty to be the same as rhw tolerance of their crews or companies. A good Officer must know their people and how best to use them.......not try to mold them to theirselves.

    Remember this; An Author, can say whatever he decrees, it need not be correct or adopted by others who can think for themselves. It should always be accepted for what it contributes, but never as written in stone!
    "All gave some......Some gave all!"
    Lest we forget.........9/11/01
    "Former Senior Member"
    RESCUEDAWG----FDNYRR

  3. #3
    MembersZone Subscriber
    MalahatTwo7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Loco madidus effercio in rutilus effercio.
    Posts
    12,837

    Default

    Hmmm Leadership... it's a wonderful tool, and an exquisite art to "influence human behaviour in such a way as to acheive the task in the manner so desired by the Leader." That is more or less an exact quote from the Junior Leadership Handbook, courtesy of the Canadian Forces Leadership Academy.

    I see the points of both CALFFBOU for his support to the Author, but I also see RdRunnr's point too. And both are valid - if that makes sense.

    First of all support to CALFFBOU: yes, the Author is theoretically correct in his statement in that a Standard has to be set, and that all should be encouraged to meet it.

    However, RdRunnr's point of "...it is most important to realize not all of us are the same..." is also true. You cannot encourage, cajole or drive a person to be anything or anyone more than the maximum that he or she can be.

    One of the most important things that has always stuck with me after my Leadership training is that you must know the limitations and abilities of your subordinates. With that you must then, as the Leader, develop those attributes (good and not so good) to strengthen each person. Knowing your people is knowing yourself, and knowing the strengths and weakness of each one and being able to utilize those skills to the greatest good to acheive your task.

    LEADERSHIP IS AN ART... some people are Artists, some are not - not everyone can be a Picasso or da Vinci.
    If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)

    "I may be slow, but my work is poor." Chief Dave Balding, MVFD

    "Its not Rocket Science. Just use a LITTLE imagination." (Me)

    Get it up. Get it on. Get it done!

    impossible solved cotidie. miracles postulo viginti - quattuor hora animadverto

    IACOJ member: Cheers, Play safe y'all.

  4. #4
    Permanently Removed
    CALFFBOU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    6,520

    Default Please read...

    Please go back and read what I wrote. I did NOT
    thats N-O-T write the article. I didnt even say
    is was good, rather enlightening. NOR did I say
    I want to or it should mold people. Some people
    have been asking for this type of info. for
    awhile.Remember- Dont kill the messenger.

    BUT- I do agree with #1. Yes, be tough and
    set standards high. I always felt that I
    should deliever the best to the people
    (our customers) like I would want the best
    delivered to my family. YES, set standards
    high, would you let a medium or low type
    Doctor operate on you or deliver your baby?
    Was the superbowl just won by slop artist?
    I think not.

    Ofcourse everyone has differnt views of
    standards. I guess it depends where the
    individual decided to place his/her bar.
    Last edited by CALFFBOU; 02-09-2003 at 05:35 PM.

  5. #5
    Forum Member
    RyanEMVFD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Why? It's not like you're going to visit me! But I'm near Waco, Texas
    Posts
    2,386

    Default

    Can't please everyone.
    NREMT-P\ Reserve Volunteer Firefighter\Reserve Police Officer
    IACOJ Attack

    Experts built the Titanic, amateurs built the Ark.

  6. #6
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Gloversville New York USA
    Posts
    42

    Default

    Calfbou,

    I agree with you. If we want to be treated as "profesional" (career and volunteer members alike) we should set our standards high. As an Officer for about 13 yrs now I try to do this for myself and my crew. If you are an effective leader your crew will tell you when you are being unrealistic in your expectations. The next step is to communicate with them and see if you in fact have set the bar to high. We all owe it to the people we are charged to protect to be on top of our game each and every day. Setting high, yet realistic standards is a must.

  7. #7
    MembersZone Subscriber
    MalahatTwo7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Loco madidus effercio in rutilus effercio.
    Posts
    12,837

    Default

    Bc3batt, thank you. You said what I was intending, but in a way that got the point out. I apologize for not being very clear in my intent.

    If you are an effective leader your crew will tell you when you are being unrealistic in your expectations
    and

    Setting high, yet realistic standards is a must.
    If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)

    "I may be slow, but my work is poor." Chief Dave Balding, MVFD

    "Its not Rocket Science. Just use a LITTLE imagination." (Me)

    Get it up. Get it on. Get it done!

    impossible solved cotidie. miracles postulo viginti - quattuor hora animadverto

    IACOJ member: Cheers, Play safe y'all.

  8. #8
    MembersZone Subscriber
    ChiefReason's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Illinois-where pertnear is close enough!
    Posts
    5,636

    Default Ask yourselves this.....

    Who are the teachers who teach the teachers and will they become our future leaders?
    I don't think Cal posted to open a debate.
    The 10 points are a framework. Use what you can and toss the rest.
    It's not like you're being asked to change religions.
    It's really not that big a deal.
    Rdrunnr: there is no question that we are all different, but if you want to be a leader, then you must learn what I learned. Your personality and character traits is what makes us different, but we still must know what motivates our people, how to make decisions from a tactical standpoint and not from an emotional one. We must learn that it's not about making friends, but making a difference. We learn differently but the information must be the same. What helps me be a better leader will also help you. Leaders should exhibit qualities that others aspire to emulate. There is nothing wrong with pulling out an old book on leadership and giving it to another, because good leadership skills are timeless. The same leadership skills that got Churchill through WWII will absolutely work today.
    As far as Richard Marcinko: yea; I use some of his teachings, but I also use some of Gandhi's.
    It is not an exact science. It is philosophy.
    CR
    Visit www.iacoj.com
    Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
    RIP HOF Robert J. Compton(ENG6511)

  9. #9
    Member
    RdRunnr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New York/New Mexico a 5,000 mile commuter
    Posts
    55

    Default

    I agree mainly with the entire first post by CALLBOU, but I DO NOT, believe the way #1 was structured.

    What you get, is what you have....meaning, if an individual passes the test, their a part of your job. Unless your Dept runs on coupons, and you have a say as to who gets in, and who doesn't.

    In regards to that......while not an Officer, most people know that your crew is not made up of Mighty Mouse and the American Heros...if per chance your a "great" firefighter Officer, then you should have the common-sense to know that all out there do not fit into the "great" catagory.

    Yes standards should be set high, most good fire dept's have good high standards, but by the same token, you must nurture your crew or company, and use your available man-power as best befits it. You would not send an overweight slower person to vent the roof, while they may be a good line mover......what I am saying is that your a "good" Officer if you keep your people on their toes, but not expect all of them to be unrealistically as "great" as you think(?) you are!

    Footnote, Marchinko was mentioned several times here........a little research will show "your hero" to be a cry-baby of the US Navy SEAL Program......who was refused promotion due to being a mustang (un-team-like) performer and quit his position with the Navy.

    Personally, a mustang is not what I endeavor a person to be in a team effort while leading men. Poor Example to say the least!

    Every "great Officer" needs a better Sgt to help them get their job done!!!!!!
    Last edited by RdRunnr; 02-10-2003 at 04:09 PM.
    "All gave some......Some gave all!"
    Lest we forget.........9/11/01
    "Former Senior Member"
    RESCUEDAWG----FDNYRR

  10. #10
    MembersZone Subscriber
    ChiefReason's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Illinois-where pertnear is close enough!
    Posts
    5,636

    Default What???????????????

    I agree mainly with the entire first post by CALLBOU, but I DO NOT, believe the way #1 was structured.
    What's the problem? It just says to set tough standards. You can nurture, but still have tough standards.
    You would not send an overweight slower person to vent the roof, while they may be a good line mover......what I am saying is that your a "good" Officer if you keep your people on their toes, but not expect all of them to be unrealistically as "great" as you think(?) you are!
    I assume that you have the luxury of picking and choosing who does what, because where I come from, everyone learns; everyone does. And why all the references to "great"? That wasn't mentioned in the 10 points.
    Footnote, Marchinko was mentioned several times here........a little research will show "your hero" to be a cry-baby of the US Navy SEAL Program......who was refused promotion due to being a mustang (un-team-like) performer and quit his position with the Navy.
    Personally, a mustang is not what I endeavor a person to be in a team effort while leading men. Poor Example to say the least!
    That's odd; Marchinko does not fit my description of a cry-baby.
    If I were to comment further, I would probably violate the terms for posting, so I will leave it at that.
    Cal; thanks for posting.
    CR
    Visit www.iacoj.com
    Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
    RIP HOF Robert J. Compton(ENG6511)

  11. #11
    Junior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Western Canada
    Posts
    5

    Default

    You can't push a rope

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Log in

Click here to log in or register