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    What does your department use for your Brush trucks?
    We have a 1969 5/4 ton, military pick-up, and a 1966 international pick-up. We are looking to replace the military one, because we cant get parts for it ne more, and its showing her age, beleive me! What do you guys have for a brush, and what would you prefer as a brush? We're looking for like a ford 3/450, or a Chevey 2/3500.

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    Our former brush truck was a 1977 Dodge Forestry Service Pickup that finally bit the dust. We are building a new one on the same type chasis but this one has a utility bed instead of a regular bed. don't have the specifics on size tank or anything since we are still deciding between two different tanks. We also have a newer chevy that we have yet to take possession of and it will be the secondary brush truck.

    Check with the builders that you are using regarding if you want ford or chevy. around here from what i understand they will only make brush trucks with Ford or Dodge chasis something to do with chevy frames being too weak or something. this is what i heard don't quote it as fact. but check anyhow.
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    We are currently using a 1985 Chevy military pickup that went to Desert Storm. It has the Desiel engine and is 4-wheel drive. We are working on a 2003 Chevy 1/2 ton 4-wheel drive to add to our apparatus.(Yes, it is pretty light duty, but that is what we kinda got stuck with.) The 85 has been a decent truck for us though.
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    Our main brush truck is a Dodge M-43. I believe it's a 1964. It is slow, but goes absolutely anywhere! We now have an attack truck to back it up. That is a 4WD 1990 Chevy 3/4 ton with turbo deisel. Both trucks carry about 200 gallons of water.
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    VFD has a 1985 Chev Cut-V military 4x4 with a utility bed and 250 gallons of water. Also have a 1989 Chev 3500 4x4 (non-military) with a utility bed with 300 gallons of water.
    Paid job has two 1991 Chev 3500 4x4 with flat beds and 250 gallons a piece, 2 1985 Chev Cut-V military 4x4 with regular truck bed and 250 gallons, 1 1985 Chev cut-v with dual wheels and 250 gallons, 1 1998 Chev 3500 non military with 250 gallons and regular truck bed, a 2002 F-450 V-10 flat bed with 300 gallons of water, 2 John Deere 6x6 little thingy majigs with 75 gallons of water.

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    Default Check them out...

    One of the most common type of brush (wildland)
    trucks you will find on the West coast is the
    model 14/15. They are extremely versitile and
    fully ready to work a structure fire as well.
    They have foam systems, ladders, 500 gal.
    water tank and seating for 5. They are a good
    all around vehicle. Check out one of the sites-

    http://www.west-mark.com/wildland2.cfm
    http://www.west-mark.com/wildland.cfm

    Here is one from San Bernardino County, CA
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    From Chino Valley-
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    Default CDF...

    The California Department of Forestry is one of
    the biggest comsumer's of the model 14 and 15s.
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    Default Last one from Apple Valley...

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    Post F-450 chassis

    Here is a what we have in the Forest Service of Oregon


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    According to NWCG Guidlines, the pics that Brett posted are Type III Wildland engines and the one that RxFire posted is a Type 6 or 5 depending on hose and various tools. The Type 6 is what we use here in the wildlands of Utah!

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    Default Important point...

    Good call Mark..Yes, my pics are a type 3. The most
    import thing I like to stress is that those 3s
    will perfectly work on a STRUCTURE FIRE just like
    the big boys. I have done it and they are nice to
    have in the tight spaces.

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    we have a 2001 ford 250 spuer duty pickup...it has a bed, but id perfer the utility bed instead. id keep the truck...
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    Thumbs up Mark's correct

    Yep, it's a 6.... I don't know that you could do a type 5 on a 450 chassis and still be under. Actually you could if you went with a straight utility box... ours have a rather heavy box, so we lose weight allowence...On the other hand... we gain durability from the stronger construction.

    This is a unit where the pump package is integral to the chassis...unlike a slip on in a "off-the-shelf" utility bed.
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    Default Farina VFD Trucks

    Around here we use a 1997 Chevy 3500 with a 300 gal and 250gpm skid unit. The 2nd out brush rig as a late 70s Dodge Power-Wagon built by Pierce with about 450 gal and 500 gpm pump. It's also used as a quick attack unit and for drafting to fill tankers from a static water source.

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    Default Brett help!

    How do I make the damn picture fit on here? I have a picture of one of our brush trucks, but can't shrink it small enough to fit on this board.... Whats up with that?

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    Mark- Two thoughts come to mind.

    1. My favorite and easy way to shrink a photo is have
    a yahoo account. www.yahoo.com And then upload it to
    your "briefcase." I have found that yahoo will shrink
    it down tosize just right for here.

    2. Using the standard windows program, use the
    "resize" option. I have only done it a few times
    and dont claim to be very good at it.

    Lastly, send the picture to me, I will shrink it
    for you and send it back for posting.

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    We'll try this... (New link)((DAMN THING))
    http://photos.yahoo.com/ffmark440

    If it works (E-62), this is a 2000 BME on a Freightliner chasis with 500 gallons of water, 1250 GPM pump, seating for 5. Runs structures, wildland, vehiclular, EMS and rescue and carries extrication tools.

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    (Brett how do I post the pic to the board now? I can link it but can't figger out how to post it...)
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    We run chevy and ford 1 ton dually 4x4 with 425 gallons of water and a waterous 2515 pump with a booster for the first on scene at a brush fire. We run 2 ton 2 wheel drive trucks with 1000 gallons of water and 2515 pumps for the backups. We have short 11/2 inch lines hooked up front behind the cab where you ride so if you need alot of water you got it. Neigboring department is building 3 Freightliner FL80 4x4 with 1000 gallon upf tanks and waterous E211 650 gpm pumps with volkswagon diesel engines on them. They are a dual purpose truck. They have sidewinder remote control nozzles out front with a riding area behind the cab. The Ladder stores under the bed between the frame. Pretty slick trucks. Rural trucks in my area have to be dual purpose. Can't afford a Class A pumper to sit around all the time and not get used.

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    Default Hey Mark...

    There is no picture there...Brett

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    .....Ain't what we want. We currently operate a 1987 Chev. 3/4 ton Pickup Diesel, Automatic, 4X4, Winch, 150 Gallon tank, pumps 100gpm @ 125 psi. It's getting the job done, but we want to replace it with a F450/550 4dr cab, flatbed, 250 gallons, 4X4, Winch, Pump 200 gpm @ 150 psi, No reel on this one, we'll use 1in forestry line on several preconnects, as well as a couple of 1.5 lines and a bed of 750 feet of 2in. for supply line. Aluminum diamondplate tool boxes set back in 2in from the side rails just about finishes it up..... Stay Safe....
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    We run both an F-350 and an F-450 with 300 gal tanks. The F-350 is at max GVW.

    The only problem with the F-450/550 is the tires if used in areas where there is loose rock such as newly cut fireline using bulldozers. The F-450/550 uses a 19.5" tire that has a two ply sidewall. We went through 4 tires in 2002 due to cuts on the sidewall. No tire manufacturer that we contacted makes anything with a heavier sidewall. The federal and state crews are experiencng the same problems.

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    What is a Rock?? We've had some problems on sandy beaches and in some swampy areas, some VFD's are switching to High Flotation tires to try to stay afloat (pun intended) but rock is not in the picture. One thing we do encounter sometimes is Junk. people who want to beat the system will dump tires, old cars, furniture, Etc. back up some trail in the bushes, and when we get a fire, we have all sorts of extra fuel there. I have laid under a brush truck with a BIG pair of pliers, cutting a large bed spring thing off the axle.... Stay Safe....
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    Most of the departments around these parts use 3/4 to 1 ton pickups with skid units. There are a few old military duece and a halfs, and two newer special built units on ton and a half chassis.

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    Hey Brett ... we actually agree on a piece of apparatus!!!

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