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    i like the blue lights but even know ill be a vol firefighter in a month i don't think ill ever add one since i only live 5 blocks from my firehouse
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    i live in NJ and one of the firefighters in my department was pulled over on the way to a call because he had too many blue lights on his car. I dont understand why the cop pulled him over, he should have followed him to the call then give him the ticket after the call is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD6551 View Post
    i live in NJ and one of the firefighters in my department was pulled over on the way to a call because he had too many blue lights on his car. I dont understand why the cop pulled him over, he should have followed him to the call then give him the ticket after the call is over.
    Because he had broken the law! The volly didn't have anything to fight the fire, he was on a fire department vehicle, so there was no need to follow him to the fire.

    The LEO did their job!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD6551 View Post
    i live in NJ and one of the firefighters in my department was pulled over on the way to a call because he had too many blue lights on his car. I dont understand why the cop pulled him over, he should have followed him to the call then give him the ticket after the call is over.
    So how much was your ticket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFDFirefighter418 View Post
    i like the blue lights but even know ill be a vol firefighter in a month i don't think ill ever add one since i only live 5 blocks from my firehouse
    A blue light in NY has very limited value.

    If you live in a smaller community that has a volunteer departments and it's residents understands what a blue light means, they generally will pull over for you. The residents of larger communities or cities passing through that community have no idea and almost never will pull over.

    Honestly, it probably won't do you very much good, but if you do buy one remember that there is a candlepower restriction in NY, or at least there was when I was a vollie there.

    Find out what that restriction is from one of the officers on your department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD6551 View Post
    i live in NJ and one of the firefighters in my department was pulled over on the way to a call because he had too many blue lights on his car. I dont understand why the cop pulled him over, he should have followed him to the call then give him the ticket after the call is over.
    How many lights, etc?

    C'mon, we want details!
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    Dear chiefKN.
    the car had wig wags. 1 LED light in the back window, 1 LED on the dashboard, and a roof light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD6551 View Post
    Dear chiefKN.
    the car had wig wags. 1 LED light in the back window, 1 LED on the dashboard, and a roof light.
    That does sound like a lot. I can tell you that the wig wags probably put it over the top in the cops mind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Honestly, it probably won't do you very much good, but if you do buy one remember that there is a candlepower restriction in NY, or at least there was when I was a vollie there.
    NYS V&T still says 32cp, AFAIK.

    It's pretty much universally ignored. Even a dash LED light probably blows that out of the water. In fact, it's hard to find a teardrop with other than a 50cp lamp.

    The general consensus these days (including an interpretation from DMV, IIRC) is one contiguous light. That can range from a dash LED to a full width lightbar, as long as it's all one light - no speaker in the middle, etc. The light cannot be part of the headlights.

    They're supposed to have a blue dome, too, but that's being pretty univerally ignored, especially with the advent of LEDs. Nowadays you see an LED light on a pick-up you don't know if he's a chief, firefighter, or a tree trimmer (amber).

    Chief's can have white, firefighters can't.

    Fire apparatus and ambulances can now have rear-facing blue, such as the police got a couple of years ago.

    As has been pointed out innumerable times, blue gets you no rights. In fact, if you're in an area with lots of traffic control devices and traffic, and not in your own district, you might as well leave it off. Odds are you won't get a by if you run a red (stop) light, even if all of the other motorists let you go.

    As long as you're not stupid about it, you can probably get away with running a tad over the speed limit (you almost have to - if you do 55 you'll be holding up traffic), and maybe rolling a stop sign. But if you have an accident as a result, you're toast.

    The cops have radios, too, and more than a few times I've heard them ask dispatch what XYZ fire department has. I have no doubt that if you're pushing your luck and you're not in your own district, you may be delayed on your arrival....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    NYS V&T still says 32cp, AFAIK.
    Title 3, Article 9, Section 375 (2) (c) of the NYS VTL: "No lamp shall be used on a motor vehicle having a light source greater than thirty-two candle power, unless such lamp is approved by the commissioner as provided by this section. The provisions of this paragraph shall not apply to any light which is permitted to be displayed only on an authorized emergency vehicle, a hazard vehicle or a vehicle which is permitted to display a blue or green light pursuant to paragraphs four and five of subdivision forty-one of this section."

    Title 3, Article 9, Section 375 (41) (4) Blue light.
    a. One blue light may be affixed to any motor vehicle owned by a volunteer member of a fire department or on a motor vehicle owned by a member of such person's family residing in the same household or by a business enterprise in which such person has a proprietary interest or by which he or she is employed, provided such volunteer firefighter has been authorized in writing to so affix a blue light by the chief of the fire department or company of which he or she is a member, which authorization shall be subject to revocation at any time by the chief who issued the same or his or her successor in office. Such blue light may be displayed exclusively by such volunteer firefighter on such a vehicle only when engaged in an emergency operation....

    So, section 2C appears to exempt blue & green lights per the maximum candlepower... Odd things do occasionally happen... But, go overboard with the lights and you'll get extra (possibly unwanted) attention from Law Enforcement... Common sense prevails here (or at least it should)

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