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    Default Who uses the hydraulic rabbit tool?

    Im wondering how many departments use the rabbit tool for inward swinging metal doors? I want to know if they are worth buying. Ive been looking for one that is adaptable to our porta-power hand pump, but so far i've only found the amkus rabbit tool for 1,200 dollars.
    What types do you use and are they as great as they seem? Let me know!

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    Question RABBIT TOOL

    Que est diddlydick la "Rabbit Tool"??? I've never heard of one, so if somebody could post a pic of one, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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    Great tool. We carry one on our Truck Company. A mini "quick and dirty" version of the jaws. Works best on steering wheels and pedals.
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    More info @ Hursts' website- www.hurstjaws.com

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    One more pic, this one showing the cutting attachment...
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    We have the "rabbit tool" as posted on this page

    We have many apartment buildings in our area, whenever we get a call to one of these and there is the possibility of having to force entry into multiple apartments with inward facing doors, this tool is quick and efficient. It works best on metal doors, just get it into the jamb, a couple of pumps on the handle and you are in.
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    Alot of LE Tactical teams use these tools for dynamic entry. Quick and quiet, with a minimal amount of effort.

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    There is another style out there that we are going to be purchasing. It's a one person rabbit tool. There is no hose between the "spreader" and the pump, it's all in one unit. Makes it much easier for 1 person to operate instead of needing 2. Have heard it called a "bunny" tool as opposed to the rabbit.

    Are they worth the $1200? How many metal doors do you have in your area? We have quite a few motels in mine and having to force (possibly) many doors makes it worth its weight in gold.
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    We carry one called the Hydra-ram from Firemark Tools. It works very well. Unfortunately, the last time I had to help force an inward swinging metal apartment door, the tool was on our other engine so we had to do it the old fashioned way with a halligan and flat head axe. Probably took two to three times longer and a lot more effort to open the door.
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    I have used the rabbit tool on numerous occasions. it's one of the best tools that we carry on our "truck" (im in a truck company). Like it was said before, the only drawback is that it only works on inward opening doors.

    We also have a tool that's similiar to that, but instead of the ram to force doors, it's a mini cutter. Great for cuttin brake pedals.
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    The Rabbit tool was invented by a career officer from PGFD with the last name of "Hare"(hence the name Rabbit) as well as one of the most highly respected Firemen the DCFD has ever known in retired Asst. Chief William Mould.
    On the truck company I am assigned to we carry one as well as a Hydra-ram. In medium and high rise buildings we take both. This is great for getting searches done quickly or using 2 tools in concert for the doors that give us trouble. This does not preclude us from taking our regular set of irons as well.
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    We have a lot of apartment buildings, and motels (i.e. metal framed, metal inward swinging doors). We carry the "Hydra-Ram" , except for a battering ram its damned quick.

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    We've got one made by Centuar aka Lukas. We've only used it in extrascation training workes really good, especiall the cutter on brakes pedals and stearing wheels.
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    We have 9 Rabbit tools each with the cutting attachment - one on each ladder and heavy squad. Besides the usual uses, at least one is assigned (on scene) as a part of the RIT cache.

    Good, versatile tool. Only drawback - gets heavy after a while.

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    We have the Hurst one. We carry it on the Ladder Co but i rarely see it come off.
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    We have one and it works well.
    It depends on what type of buildings are in your district, and their security. It is a waste of time on regular wood doors but higher security doors it works well. Keep in mind that you need to keep the irons with you also, since it is mechanical it can fail and you need to fall back on. Just like an axe on a roof the irons will always start.

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    It can pop a metal door right off it's hinges
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    Another old timer out there! R1SAlum mentioned the inventors of the Rabbit tool and here's more...... Jimmy Hare was a Lieutenant at Squad 22 (Tuxedo-Cheverly) and Bill Mould was (or had been) a volunteer there when the Rabbit Tool idea came along. Just up the road at station 1 (Hyattsville) about the same time, Richard Clemens, also a PGFD officer, was busy creating the "Clemens Hook" tool. Lotta talent around here in those days. Stay Safe....
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    My Truck Company carries a Hydra-Ram. Works like a charm!

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