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    Angry Is the NFA cutting the rest of this years courses?

    There is an initial report that the National Fire Academy is going to cut the rest of this year's courses due to a cut in funding. There are conflicting stories. One of our BC's is in class there now and he was told this was going to happen. Some other people I have received messages stating that this was not true. Anyone with anything to kill the rumors?

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    This is also posted as an "official report" on the IAAI website, with no confirmation. There is nothing of this on the NFA website. There has been no information sent out to the contract instructors.

    Can somebody confirm this?

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    We will have further information on what is really going on Friday, Monday at the latest, once things are sorted out.

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    Post This just in.......

    I have just received an email from Ron Kanterman, President, National Fire Academy Alumni Association (of which I am proud to be a member). Ron forwarded a copy of an email from Dr. Denis O'Neal that stated 36 classes are being cut from the May-Sept schedule. Ron has asked that we ALL contact our US Senators and Congressmen, (women too, I guess) and ask that they support our efforts to reverse this action. Dr. O'Neal's point was that, due to budget problems, NFA, FEMA, and the EMI, are all making budget cuts. The point that WE need to make to our elected officials is that this is like cutting classes at West Point or Annapolis. The NFA is the "Service Academy" for our nations Fire and Rescue services. A cut at this time, with a war going on, and our organizations being the first line of defense here at home, in simply irresponsible penny pinching. I am contacting all of the above (from Maryland) and I ask, PLEASE follow up with contacting those from YOUR State. WT, Thanks for the help on this, please keep us up on developments. Stay Safe....
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    Smile Here's More.....

    If you need email addresses for your elected representatives in Washington, try http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ Thanks, Stay Safe....
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    Go easy here. You are a professional. Act like one. Speak intelligently and factually. Seperate fact from rumor. I agree that some of these cuts don't make sense, this is not doomsday. Nonetheless, our voices must still be heard.

    I wholeheartedly agree that now is the time for us to contact our representatives and let our feeling s be heard. The NFA is a jewel that the fire service cannot affors to lose. However, because we are professionals, we must conduct oursleves in a professional, rather than a hysterical, manner.

    Here are some facts:

    1. The Office of Homeland Security is NOT closing the NFA or eliminating the USFA.

    2. The NFA is NOT being turned into a base of operations for the OHS.

    3. The NFA IS giving a ton of classes this semester.

    4. Some of the classes that were cut were destined to be cancelled anyway due to low enrollment.

    5. They will be hard pressed to cut classes if there is a large demand for registration. How many of you have never gone? Do you know that the NFA pays all expenses except a meal stipend (less than $100 per week).
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    Smile Well........

    George raises some good points. I stick by my post above, and I would suggest that anyone who knows Ron Kanterman ask his opinion on this. My post, as I stated, was based on info direct from Ron, and in response to an email from Dr. O'neal.......... No, I don't think the sky is falling, but This is not the time to be cutting back on training either. Finally, Yes, I have taken a number of NFA courses, including 2 VIP offerings. I would encourage everyone to try to get to one of these courses, it's an experience that will stick in your mind for a long time. Stay Safe....
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    I eidted my post above to reflect that I completely agree that we have to let our feelings be known and to push for the maintenance of the NFA. That point got ,ost in my prior post.

    I also know Ron and certainly respect his opinion. My caution was to avoid any hysterical rantings and ravings that have marred some of the fire service's past attempts to rally Congress.

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    Post IAFC Advisory Issued.......

    We're together on this one George, I have received a email copy of a "Members Advisory" issued by the IAFC this morning regarding this matter. If ANYONE else out there has also received it, and you know how to copy it to this forum thread, please do so. My computer skills are extremely minimal. Thanks, Stay Safe....
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    The NFA has sent out their 2004 Catalog of Activites, lots of programs. Good luck on going, I had a FF go from down here he learned a lot and had a great time.

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    Because of a FEMA-wide budget adjustment, the USFA had to take an 11% annual budget cut over the next six months. As a result, the National Fire Academy had to cut 36 resident courses (out of a planned 89 courses) between the beginning of May and the end of September.

    The NFA isn't being singled out - FEMA and the USFA (which now includes the Emergency Management Institute) are dealing with equal budget cuts. We will all continue to operate, though each will be reducing some activities. The NFA will be delivering 53 courses between May and September.

    The list of courses that are being cancelled, are as follows:

    5/12/03
    R332 Interpersonal Dynamics for Fire Service Organizations

    R308 Command& Control of FD Ops - Natural & Man-Made

    R331 Organization Theory in Practice

    R123 Executive Development


    5/25/03
    R108 Evaluating Performance Based Designs

    R314 Command & Control of FD Ops - Target Hazards

    R150 Management of Emergency Medical Services

    R152 EMS: Special Operations


    6/8/03
    R802 Fire Service Planning for the 21st Century

    R811 Fire Cause Determination for Company Officers

    R816 Community Education Leadership


    6/16/03
    R208 Interview & Interrogation Techniques

    R220 Fire Inspection Principles (cancel one of 2 sessions)

    R499 NFIRS Program Management


    7/7/03
    R101 Code Management: A Systems Approach

    R107 Fire Service Communications

    R332 Interpersonal Dynamics for Fire Service Organizations


    7/21/03
    R114 Fire Service Course Design

    R225 Management of Fire Prevention Programs

    R229 Haz Mat Operating site Practices

    R333 Fire Service Financial Management


    8/4/03
    R304 Command & Control FD Ops - Multi-Alarm Incidents

    R506 Executive Planning

    R220 Fire Inspection Principles


    8/18/03
    R107 Fire Service Communications

    R125 Executive Leadership

    R342 Training Program Management

    R332 Interpersonal Dynamics in Fire Service Organizations


    9/8/03
    R151 Advanced Leadership Issues in EMS

    R207 Management for Arson Prevention & Control

    R306 Exec Analysis of Fire Service Ops in Emerg. Mgt.


    9/21/03
    R823 Prevention Solutions for Small Departments

    R817 Emergency Response to Terrorism: Inc Mgt.

    R831 Command & Control of Incident Operations

    R810 Leadership & Administration

    R822 Advanced Safety Operations & Management

    Students enrolled and instructors contracted for these courses have begun to be notified as of 4/10/03, at 2:30 pm.

    To verify the status of courses you may contact the admissions office at 301 447-1035, or at netc-admissions@fema.gov.
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    Well, I'll look at the bright side.....with the my July Fire Service Course Design class canceled, at least I'll have all summer off. Time to start getting my app ready for May 1st application date.

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