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About LinkBacksHere is another tillered ladder quint (KME) with
a pump from the Los Angeles County Fire Department.
I dont know how many gallons it is. I showed a
picture earlier of a simular truck (I think E-One?)
from Huntington Beach, CA.
I know how popular quints are in here, so have fun.
Please keep in mind these units have been very
successful. They still function as a truck with a
bonus. There are NO jobs loss nor combining of
truck/engine function with this truck.
Take care, Bou
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06-03-2003, 02:30 AM #1Permanently Removed
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As promised- a tillered quint. (picture)
Last edited by CALFFBOU; 06-03-2003 at 02:35 AM.
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06-03-2003, 08:26 AM #2Forum Member
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Nice truck
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No longer an explorer, but I didn't wanna lose my posts.
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06-03-2003, 09:07 AM #355 Years & Still Rolling
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Hmmmmmm...............
Well now, let's see where..... Ok, It's an engine - Driver, Officer, and two Firefighters.... Oops, almost forgot, It's a Tractor drawn ladder. That means a Driver, Officer, Tillerman, (Not you, 25) and three Firefighters. Does this thing have 10 seats??? (Just pulling your leg, Bou)
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06-03-2003, 09:32 AM #4District Chief
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Wow...What a nice rig.... Can I drive the back???
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06-03-2003, 10:23 AM #5MembersZone Subscriber
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Can I drive the back with you Capt Stan?
Nice rig Bou!
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06-03-2003, 07:26 PM #6Temporarily/No Longer Active
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when i went to the kme factory in california and they call them QUILLERS.also santa barbara county has a 105'foot tiller with pump and tank.also i have seen a seagrave version of that.
that is a nice truck by the way.
if u have a 2003 kme calender the santa barbara county truck is in december.
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06-03-2003, 08:13 PM #7MembersZone Subscriber
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where is the supply hose???
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06-03-2003, 11:39 PM #855 Years & Still Rolling
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Most of Them........
Historically, Most quints have had the supply line bed under the Stick and over the ground ladder racks, Etc. My guess on this one would be under the stick, with a chute to direct the hose around the tiller seat. Bou?. Stay Safe....
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06-04-2003, 12:31 AM #9Forum Member
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Here's another couple tiller quints, from Woodinville and Kirkland, WA, two suburbs of Seattle right next door to each other. The Woodinville quint is the first one ever built with a three axle tractor, which was probably done due to WA's strict weight laws (no exemptions for fire apparatus). As far as I know it's the only tiller quint built with a heavy-duty ladder.
All of these images are from www.bbirmingham.com, a site with tons of pics of Pacific NW apparatus, so credit must go to him.
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06-04-2003, 01:38 PM #10Forum Member
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Nice rigs. I would love to try and get one them round one of my little town streets. One of those trucks must be half the length of the High Street
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06-04-2003, 02:58 PM #11Temporarily/No Longer Active
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also its for extra braking power.The Woodinville quint is the first one ever built with a three axle tractor, which was probably done due to WA's strict weight laws
http://www.firehouse.com/hotshots/ap...ttesville.html
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06-04-2003, 03:32 PM #12Forum Member
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A Quiller, eh?" Then their company mascot should be a porcupine! LOLOriginally posted by EoneTiller
when i went to the kme factory in california and they call them QUILLERS.
"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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06-04-2003, 03:45 PM #13MembersZone Subscriber
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HAAHAHAHA on the "QUILLER" thats what the nickname for my trade classification is.
On a more serious note, those are some pretty nice rigs. But I do have to ask, although I am well aware of the weight restrictions of WA state (my parents used to drive a long hauler from BC to CA) how the heck does that thing make the turns through a city? I mean I have been down some of those streets with a single axel tractor and a 30 foot pup, and that aint an easy thing to do.
Still, nice trucks!!!If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)
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06-04-2003, 07:59 PM #14MembersZone Subscriber
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As my signature says, Malahat, I am the IACOJ tillerman. A tillered rig is much more maneuverable than any straight ladder truck or even a single screw tractor with a 30 foot pup trailer for one simple reason. The rear wheels are steerable enabling the rig's trailer to track in relatively the same path the tractor takes through the corners. Even wider, if necessary. That is the reason for a tiller in the first place. You don't have that with a box trailer, hence the greater maneuverability of the coolest piece of fire apparatus on wheels.
Leroy140 (yes, THAT Leroy)
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06-04-2003, 09:33 PM #15MembersZone Subscriber
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you wouldnt believe your eyes if you saw a tiller in action. They can move around way better than any straight job rear or mid mount and probrably better than some of the larger engines on the market these days.
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06-05-2003, 01:32 AM #16MembersZone Subscriber
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I actually had to Tiller around an E-One 95'Tower Ladder (that was supposedly so "manueverable" NOT!) to position our Tractor-drawn.
I will swear by TDA's to the end. You cannot get a Straight Frame Aerial into the same position that you can a TDA. HWoods, how does that beast Seagrave at 18 get around? That thing is HUGE!
I think the 3 Axle Tractor might take a little getting used to, but I think there is a place in Colorado or Wyoming that has one for more climbing power on mountain roads. Niles, Illinois has a Pierce Lance/Smeal TDA that has a 3-Axle tractor. They did this to achieve a 500# tip load on the aerial.
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Some response back...
#1. I made a mistake in my first post. I am pretty
sure the truck from Huntington Beach, CA is NOT
an E-One as stated but rather a Spartan Tractor.
#2. Sorry guys, I dont have any more info. on
the LA County rig.
#3. You guys are right. With my limted tillerman
experience, I can tell you that they are very
manuverable and easy to get into and around tight
spaces.
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06-05-2003, 09:26 PM #18MembersZone Subscriber
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Mpeg Clip
For those of you who've never seen just what a tiller is capable of, here is a link to a cool night time run in DC. Watch the cornering... Enjoy!
http://www.dcfd.com/e16t3run2.MPG
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06-05-2003, 10:29 PM #19Senior Member
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Wow! That is some seriously heavy iron for fighting fire. I saw a picture of a tillered quint many years back but didn't realize so many places actually run them. I thought it was one of those "one off" type of things.
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06-05-2003, 10:57 PM #20MembersZone Subscriber
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if you are going to post an image post a real truck a Seagrave
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