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    Default As promised- a tillered quint. (picture)

    Here is another tillered ladder quint (KME) with
    a pump from the Los Angeles County Fire Department.
    I dont know how many gallons it is. I showed a
    picture earlier of a simular truck (I think E-One?)
    from Huntington Beach, CA.

    I know how popular quints are in here, so have fun.
    Please keep in mind these units have been very
    successful. They still function as a truck with a
    bonus. There are NO jobs loss nor combining of
    truck/engine function with this truck.

    Take care, Bou
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    Nice truck .
    No longer an explorer, but I didn't wanna lose my posts.

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    Question Hmmmmmm...............

    Well now, let's see where..... Ok, It's an engine - Driver, Officer, and two Firefighters.... Oops, almost forgot, It's a Tractor drawn ladder. That means a Driver, Officer, Tillerman, (Not you, 25) and three Firefighters. Does this thing have 10 seats??? (Just pulling your leg, Bou) Stay Safe....
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    Wow...What a nice rig.... Can I drive the back???
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    Can I drive the back with you Capt Stan?

    Nice rig Bou!

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    when i went to the kme factory in california and they call them QUILLERS.also santa barbara county has a 105'foot tiller with pump and tank.also i have seen a seagrave version of that.

    that is a nice truck by the way.

    if u have a 2003 kme calender the santa barbara county truck is in december.

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    where is the supply hose???

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    Cool Most of Them........

    Historically, Most quints have had the supply line bed under the Stick and over the ground ladder racks, Etc. My guess on this one would be under the stick, with a chute to direct the hose around the tiller seat. Bou?. Stay Safe....
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    Here's another couple tiller quints, from Woodinville and Kirkland, WA, two suburbs of Seattle right next door to each other. The Woodinville quint is the first one ever built with a three axle tractor, which was probably done due to WA's strict weight laws (no exemptions for fire apparatus). As far as I know it's the only tiller quint built with a heavy-duty ladder.







    All of these images are from www.bbirmingham.com, a site with tons of pics of Pacific NW apparatus, so credit must go to him.

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    Nice rigs. I would love to try and get one them round one of my little town streets. One of those trucks must be half the length of the High Street !!
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    The Woodinville quint is the first one ever built with a three axle tractor, which was probably done due to WA's strict weight laws
    also its for extra braking power.





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    Originally posted by EoneTiller
    when i went to the kme factory in california and they call them QUILLERS.
    A Quiller, eh?" Then their company mascot should be a porcupine! LOL
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    HAAHAHAHA on the "QUILLER" thats what the nickname for my trade classification is.

    On a more serious note, those are some pretty nice rigs. But I do have to ask, although I am well aware of the weight restrictions of WA state (my parents used to drive a long hauler from BC to CA) how the heck does that thing make the turns through a city? I mean I have been down some of those streets with a single axel tractor and a 30 foot pup, and that aint an easy thing to do.

    Still, nice trucks!!!
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    As my signature says, Malahat, I am the IACOJ tillerman. A tillered rig is much more maneuverable than any straight ladder truck or even a single screw tractor with a 30 foot pup trailer for one simple reason. The rear wheels are steerable enabling the rig's trailer to track in relatively the same path the tractor takes through the corners. Even wider, if necessary. That is the reason for a tiller in the first place. You don't have that with a box trailer, hence the greater maneuverability of the coolest piece of fire apparatus on wheels.
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    you wouldnt believe your eyes if you saw a tiller in action. They can move around way better than any straight job rear or mid mount and probrably better than some of the larger engines on the market these days.

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    I actually had to Tiller around an E-One 95'Tower Ladder (that was supposedly so "manueverable" NOT!) to position our Tractor-drawn.

    I will swear by TDA's to the end. You cannot get a Straight Frame Aerial into the same position that you can a TDA. HWoods, how does that beast Seagrave at 18 get around? That thing is HUGE!

    I think the 3 Axle Tractor might take a little getting used to, but I think there is a place in Colorado or Wyoming that has one for more climbing power on mountain roads. Niles, Illinois has a Pierce Lance/Smeal TDA that has a 3-Axle tractor. They did this to achieve a 500# tip load on the aerial.

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    Default Some response back...

    #1. I made a mistake in my first post. I am pretty
    sure the truck from Huntington Beach, CA is NOT
    an E-One as stated but rather a Spartan Tractor.

    #2. Sorry guys, I dont have any more info. on
    the LA County rig.

    #3. You guys are right. With my limted tillerman
    experience, I can tell you that they are very
    manuverable and easy to get into and around tight
    spaces.

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    For those of you who've never seen just what a tiller is capable of, here is a link to a cool night time run in DC. Watch the cornering... Enjoy!
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    Wow! That is some seriously heavy iron for fighting fire. I saw a picture of a tillered quint many years back but didn't realize so many places actually run them. I thought it was one of those "one off" type of things.
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    if you are going to post an image post a real truck a Seagrave

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    ^Sweet rig^
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    That last rig is 10-98 from Empire Hook & Ladder Co. 1, Upper Nyack, NY (Notice the Tappan Zee Bridge in the background). An absolutely stunning rig to see in person. Notice the all wooden extension ladders.

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    Cool

    I will put my 105ft all wheel steer Pierce up against your tillers anyday you want.
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    Don't forget that the Colombus, Ohio Fire Department has tillered aerials with tandem axles. They are ALF eagle tandem axle tractors with LTI 100' aerials. The purchase was for 3 and I believe they were built in 2000. As for LACoFD, the tillered quints by KME they bought have 300 gallon tanks but they are only 75' aerials (33's, 73's, 125's, 127's for example) as well as the one LACoFD loaned LAFD for evaluation. Just some thoughts.

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    Amazing!!!!

    It's amazing how a tiller can operate around. It almost looks like it can bend the laws of physics when you see it drive down the road.

    I know it's nothing for most of you guys here but whoever has not seen a tiller in action, you gotta do it. I had a chance to drive a tiller at the Milwaukee Fire Academy a few years ago. You have to turn the opposite way the tractor is turning until you get to the corner and crank it back again. Took some getting used to.

    Like I said, nothing for most guys here but I have to go to either Milwaukee or Minneapolis, MN to see one screaming down the road.

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