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    Default Its summer time in the flatlands

    Hey everyone just thought we needed to start the summer thread. Put away the long sleve shirts and dig out the shorts. We all complained about the cold and snow in the winter thread so come on in and bitch about it being hot
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    YEEEEEEHHHHHHHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !! it's fricken hot !













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    Why can't we ever get a fire in the spring time. Or when it is a nice 65 degrees. No we have to get them when it is 85. Even if it is just a car fire.

    Ok I am done whining.
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    You bet it's hot. I worked on a blacktop parking lot at the funeral home all day yesterday.
    We talked about grass fires in the springtime thread. There have been a few in the area in the last week. At the same time, some locations had 2+ inches too. Speaking of rain, we need some in Pearl City. I'm getting tired of watering my garden.
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    As I said in the meeting last week, it's as dry as a popcorn fart around here. MAYBE storms this week. Need it to rain like a cow ****ing on a flat rock. Man, I love living in the country!!!








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    Figured a Southerner better get in on this, too, but Jay pretty well covered everything. We still don't need any rain, farmers are just getting started planting beans. I'm replacing about 150 water meters in pits and having to bail water out of half of them. PC, bring your buckets down here and I'll fill them up for free.
    And I don't have the AC running in my house yet!
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    Howdy Folks..
    Just a quick hello from Burn Camp. If you think YOU are hot. Try one of these non-air conditioned cabins ... Having a great time and it makes me proud to be from Illinois...STAY COOL

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    Can I come and play in your summer thread?

    I could post some summertime type pics hehehehe *wicked evil grin*

    Am I eligible yet for honorary status?
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    Ohhhhh,

    Summer type pics.

    I vote for honorary status.
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    Remenber her last pictures! I wonder if that body paint melts when it gets hot?
    Respect you are welcome in the flatland page anytime. Just keep it clean. We don't want DJ geting Jack in trouble with his wife
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    OOOHHH, summertime.....pictures.....heat warping my brain......priceless Ok guys, can we vote Sheri in now?
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    Define clean

    Thanks for the support guys, I guess bribing really does work
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    Thumbs down WEATHER or NOT

    Summertime, Huh.
    I'm getting tired of this damn stormy weather. Jack, youse guyzz down south got it made. All of us up nort have had too many days of severe weather. Rockford really got hit Fri morning. Freeport too. It was Chicago and collar counties got it Sun and Mon. The boyzz along the river have been getting it almost every day. We got up to 2.5" this morning and more coming. Enough already. The end is in site though.
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    I wish we could BUY a good storm. I'm really getting tired of this 97F with 137% humidity. And it doesn't look like it's going to cool off anytime soon.

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    Just like you northners, hoging all the rain

    You can keep all the storms just send us a nice shower.
    Getting tired of watching the lightning in the north and still haven't gotten enough rain to wet the sidewalk.

    Sounds like the north has been hit hard by these recent storms. Hope no one has been injures or killed. Take care and be safe.
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    CRACCCCCK!! KA-BOOM!!!!

    We had one HUMDINGER of a storm blow through here this afternoon. The sky was a really ugly green, but I didn't hear of any tornado sightings. The storm was tracking east, north of Calgary when it took a "sharp right turn" according to the weather guys, which caused all hell to break loose. Thunder, lightening, pouring rain, hail from pea to marble size DT, pea to grape to golf ball size in some areas, some flooding. Hit right at rush hour of course.

    Just talked to my dad in Jasper (small tourist town in the Heart of the Canadian Rockies - about 4 1/2 - 5 hrs northwest of Calgary), asked if they got hit too. Well did they ever!! First time EVER they've been booted off the golf course, and a lightening strike started a forest fire on Pyramid Bench. Think they got it out though, Dad said he saw the helo dropping H20 on it.

    This picture is my sister and 2 of my nieces with Pyramid Mountain in the background.
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    Sheri, I can see why you people put up witht he winters in Canada. It's to look forward to summer. The picture is absolutly gorgeous.
    I didn't think I'd be saying this anytime soon, but we really could use a rain. Haven't seen much in a couple of weeks, although a few spots had 1 - 2 inches last week. Not us though. I'll do my part to cool it off. I should get the A/C running again in my house in the next day or two. That'll make the weather cool off for sure. Might not even have to turn it on after I get it going.
    80, it looks funny down here to see one field of corn 7 ft. tall and tassling and right next to it is a field of corn that's 8 inches tall. Almost looks like some of the beans are taller than the corn.
    Cap, send us the rain. It does look like we're in for a stormy night tonight. Hope it doesn't get too rough but as hot and humid as it is, anything might happen.
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    Jack... Be careful what you wish for. I bad mouthed the greedy northeners yesterday and received 3" last night. Big storms in the area again tonight but have not been out to check the gage yet. They gave an alert for an unconfirmed funnel cloud in West Quincy and luckily that was the only sighting reported. Still sounded like Quincy area had lots of wind damage. Lots of reports of trees and wired down.
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    received 3" last night
    You are talking about rain, right?

    Les, let that be a lesson to ya. You ask, we deliver!

    Finally got a peaceful night last night. The weathermen say it's over for a little while. Let's hope so.

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    I might keep asking for more. It rained 3 miles North of here yesterday afternoon and 2 miles South, but only a few drops at home. I cut grass all afternoon. Last night we got .4. No storms, no wind, just a nice shower. We could probably use that much more but I think its over for now. We've been right in the middle of everything again. Just hope that keeps up. Let you people up north keep all the bad weather. That's something we don't mind letting Chicago have.
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    PC,

    You ain't kidding Rockford got hit hard.

    I live here.
    Here is a link to some pictures.
    The 3rd one down by Brian and Cindy Steele was submitted by my mom.

    That is their neighbors house.

    Click here: Email WTVO Your Storm Stories/Pictures

    Unfortunately I was in Green Bay when this all happened.


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    Mike, ya big nerd, the link didn't come through. Try it again.
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    www.wtvo.com


    You may have to type it in.
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    I'll find some stories later about all the wild weather we've had in various parts of Canada for those that "didn't know we get tornados up North".

    Ok, so this picture is ummmmm ok I had it figured out this morning how to explain this .... dammmmmmm alcohol!!!

    OK the lake my sister and her kids were skating on in the last picture you can see Pyramid Mountain to the West. The direction they are facing on the lake is FACING Whistler Mountain.

    "new pic here" point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PYRAMID MOUNTAIN over here


    (remember I said the Pyramid Bench runs parallel to the townsite?) so draw a line between Whistler Mtn and Pyramid Mtn. and that's where the townsite is. I asked my mom (I think, coulda been Dad) to run out to the back yard and take a pic facing North - northeast (for future reference Old Man Mtn) and South (for future reference ummm not knowing what it will show - Mt. Edith Cavell, Tekarra, Skyline) but it was "raining and lightening and thunder every hour". hahahah suckers.

    Then you will have a complete 360 view of where I grew up.

    Anyway, this is a pretty cool pic.

    nooooooooooooooooo I haven't been drinking hehehe

    Here's the blurb that went with the pic that I found in Jasper's weekly newspaper.

    Special delivery Forest firefighters training to rappel from a helicopter captured the attention of motorists driving along Highway 16, July 11. The crew of four firefighters made several descents near the Park compound as part of their re-certification requirements. Their certification comes just in time for the lightning season.

    I'm going to check with my sister too, I got a calendar for Christmas with family/Jasper pics, maybe she has them on disk.

    Ohhhhhhhh should I be insulted that my pitiful plea for honorary Illinoisan / Illini status has been pretty much ignored??????? wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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    As promised LONG POST WARNING and a little light reading for storm lovers.

    First is recent news, and then some info and links about previous deadly tornados in Canada, specifically Edmonton July 31, 1987 and Pine Lake, July 14, 2000 and then some stuff specifically about Edmonton, Calgary and Alberta storms.

    Damage being assessed after twisters hit Saskatchewan, Manitoba

    WINNIPEG (CP) - Environment Canada officials travelled through parts of the Prairies on Tuesday to assess damage from severe storms that packed tornadoes and hail as big as baseballs.

    Southern Manitoba bore the brunt of Monday's storm - roofs were damaged, trees were knocked down and power was disrupted - but no injuries were reported. "Right now we're looking at confirmed, or certainly very credible, reports of three tornadoes," said Environment Canada meteorologist Jay Anderson.

    "One of them near Portage La Prairie. One of them near Winkler and the more serious one at Gretna."

    Ed Friesen was overwhelmed after returning to his Gretna home and finding the storm had punched holes in his roof, torn off some siding and uprooted trees.

    "I walked around two or three times trying to figure out what to do next," he said. "You see it on TV where whole communities are wiped out, but you never think it can happen to you."

    Based on the damage, Anderson said the tornadoes were likely in the F-1 category - the second-weakest class, but still packing winds of up to 160 kilometres an hour.

    Aside from roof damage, most buildings emerged unscathed.

    "That's an interesting thing about tornadoes," said Anderson. "They

    seem to do a huge amount of damage to trees, but relatively light damage to well-built structures. Of course, it depends on whether they hit the structures directly or whether they're off to the side."

    The Manitoba government's Emergency Measures Organization was also surveying some of the damage Tuesday, but said it was not enough to warrant any emergency programs.

    Manitoba Hydro crews worked into the night to restore power.

    Some of the most notable damage was caused by hail measuring 10 centimetres in diameter, which smashed through car windows in Altona, about 60 kilometres south of Winnipeg.

    In Fort Qu'Appelle, Sask., about 70 kilometres northeast of Regina, fallen trees and downed power lines littered streets, chimney pipes had been blown off roofs and large evergreens were bent and uprooted.

    Extensive damage was also reported in nearby towns.

    "The sound was just like they say - a train coming," recalled Brenda Helfrick of Fort San.

    "It sounded like the furnace was exploding . . . It was just this swoosh kind of a vacuum. It's hard to describe."

    Although there was little damage to Helfrick's lakefront home, a tree on her property broke off into the neighbour's window. There were so many leaves inside that home Helfrick said it looked like someone had thrown a tossed salad on the walls.

    The Canadian Press, 2003

    07/15/2003 13:57 EST


    INFO ABOUT PINE LAKE, ALBERTA JULY 14, 2000

    July 14th, 2000
    F3 tornado rips through Alberta camping area killing 11 people.
    (This tornado ranks 4th in Canada's all time worst tornados)

    Quick Facts:

    Time: 7pm, July 14th, 2000
    Location: Green Acres trailer park, Pine Lake, Alberta
    Wind speeds: 300km/hr
    Width of funnel at ground: 1.5 km (about 1 mile) at max.
    Time on ground: 30 mins
    Fatalities: 11 killed, 132 hospitalized

    http://users.rttinc.com/~carlclub/tornado/tornado.htm
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    http://www.ontariostorms.com/2000/jul/14/



    CANADA'S WORST TORNADOS
    source: http://www.ontariostorms.com/special.html

    Rank Province Town/City Date #Dead #Injured

    1 Saskatchewan Regina June 3, 1912 28 hundreds
    2 Alberta Edmonton July 31, 1987 27 300
    3 Ontario Windsor June 17, 1946 17 hundreds
    4 Alberta Pine Lake July 14th, 2000 11 132
    5 Quebec Valleyfield Aug. 16, 1888 9 14
    6 Ontario Windsor April 3, 1974 9 dozens
    7 Ontario Barrie May 31, 1985 8 155
    8 Ontario Sudbury Aug. 20, 1970 6 200
    9 Quebec St. Rose June 14, 1892 6 26
    10 Ontario St. Catharines (Merriton) Sep 26, 1898 5 dozens
    11 New Brunswick Buctouche Aug. 6, 1879 5 10
    12 Manitoba Portage la Prairie June 23, 1922 5 15

    http://datalib.library.ualberta.ca/tornado/t87.html#Contents The Edmonton tornado - lots of info but a weeee little bit wordy

    8. THUNDERSTORMS IN EDMONTON AND CALGARY


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    In section 1, subsection c, data from Hage (1990) indicated that Edmonton, with 12 tornadoes between 1890 and 1989, was the hands-down leader over Calgary where only 3 tornadoes had struck during that century. Since 1989 Edmonton has had 3 more, Calgary none.

    The number of times during the past 15 years that Calgary and Edmonton were struck by large hail, that is, at least walnut size and thus damaging to weathered shingles, was carefully estimated. This was accomplished by perusing the storm reports listed by the Insurance Bureau of Canada (1996) while comparing them with the detailed tabulations of hail events in the severe-summer-weather lists issued annually by the ALWC from 1982 to 1994 and, since then, by similar lists from the now separate Southern and Northern Alberta Environmental Services Centres located in Calgary and Edmonton. Since 1982 it was determined that Calgary had 17 storms with large hail while Edmonton had 14. However, during the summers of '91 through '96, Calgary has had 12 of their 17 storms while Edmonton has had only 6 of 14. The severe weather coordinator at the Southern Alberta Environmental Services Centre (Dudley, 1996) has reported that this situation may support suggestions by the insurance industry that Calgary is being struck much more frequently by damaging hail. A similar increase has not been experienced in Edmonton where visits by walnut sized or larger hail have averaged approximately 1 per year during both the 80's and 90's. Devastating hailstorms with tennis-ball-sized hailstones have struck both cities twice during recent decades; Calgary in '81 and '91 and Edmonton in '69 and '87 (Charlton et al., 1995).

    Major hail swaths passing through Calgary during the period 1957-1973 were shown in maps contained in Climatic Summaries of Hailfall in Central Alberta (Wojtiw, 1975). During those 17 years, Calgary lay within the cloud seeding area of the Alberta Hail Project. The maps indicate that Calgary was struck by walnut sized hail on between 13 and 20 occasions, or roughly once per year. These events showed no trend during the 17 years. Edmonton was never within the jurisdiction of the Alberta Hail Project. Between 1974 and 1985, the final decade of the hail suppression project, Calgary also lay outside the project area and, unfortunately, the reported hail swaths could not be interpreted in terms of whether or not they dispersed large hail on Calgary or Edmonton. Finally, the '57-'73 hailstorm information, discussed above, gave further credence to the possibility that Calgary, with an average of two storms with large hail per year since 1991, is experiencing a remarkable run of severe hailstorms.

    Recently, Charlton and Kachman (1997) estimated the life expectancies of asphalt shingles exposed to weathering and a normal mix of hailstorms for both Edmonton and Calgary. They determined that asphalt shingles will last an average of 14 years in Edmonton and 11 years in Calgary if they can resist fracturing by walnut sized hailstones until late in their life. Improved asphalt shingles which would resist fracturing by golfball sized hailstones after 15 years of weathering were found to have hypothetical average lifetimes of 27 years in Edmonton and 17 years in Calgary. These lifetimes were based upon official weather observations at the airports which, averaged over several decades, indicated that Edmonton airports averaged 2.0 hailfalls (pea size or larger) per year while Calgary Airport averaged 4.1 hailfalls per year. Unfortunately, the mix of hail size categories reported by farmers in central Alberta had to be used in the shingle lifetime estimates so the strong possibility that Calgary receives a much higher proportion of pea sized hail, because of its altitude, than does Edmonton could not be taken into account.

    A Severe Thunderstorm Climatology for Alberta (Paruk and Blackwell, 1994) based on '82 through '91 reports by volunteer weather watchers and other members of the public was recently published by researchers at the Northern Alberta Environmental Services Centre. The objective of the research was to adjust the number of reports per county for population density to yield realistic provincial maps of various severe weather parameters. Direct comparisons of values for Calgary and Edmonton should not suffer from anomalies found in some sparsely monitored counties. For the ten year period, Edmonton had 2.3 severe thunderstorm events per year per 1000 km2 while Calgary had 1.6. Similarly, Edmonton had 0.8 hail events (walnut or larger) per 1000 km2 while Calgary had 0.7. Edmonton had 0.5 heavy rain events (30 mm in an hour) per year while Calgary had 0.4. Severe wind events associated with thunderstorms were 0.3 per year per 1000 km2 in both cities. Winter wind events associated with Chinooks in the foothills and cold frontal passages throughout the province were not under consideration. As expected, tornado sitings during the decade were much more frequent in Edmonton (0.8 per year per 1000 km2) than in Calgary (0.1 per year 1000 km2) but in both cities the tornadoes seldom did damage to more than a few trees or one or two buildings, the exception being the Edmonton tornado.

    Finally, it is hoped that the severe hailstorms in Calgary during the 90's will become a meteorological aberration like the Edmonton tornado appears to have been, and if not, may Calgarians discover hail resistant roofing before the insurance companies modify their coverage to reduce the stupendous insured losses.


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