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    Exclamation Fire Department out of Business, Fire Truck for sale

    Grenelefe fire engine remains up for grabs
    By STEVEN N. LEVINE
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    GRENELEFE -- With only nibbles locally, Grenelefe's former fire chief is making a national mutual aid call in an attempt sell the department's engine.

    Directors of the former volunteer fire-rescue squad called it quits in April after neither Polk County, the majority of Grenelefe residents or the 1,000-acre golf and tennis resort's new owners, Westgate Resorts, would share the cost of manning the fire station off County Route 544.

    The 20-year-old Engine 12, an E-One attack pumper, is the fire company's largest remaining asset which the manufacturer appraised at in excess of $40,000, said Scott Clugston, the former chief who was its only firefighter at the end. The good conditon of the fire station and the pumer can be attributed to Polk County Fire Services, which helped maintain them.

    It was unclear what Westgate Resorts intended for the station. It was built by the resort's developer. The fire truck is an asset of the fire company board of directors and must be liquidated, Clugston said.

    "That's what they appraised it for and that's what we want for it," he said.

    Clugston intends to advertise in national trade journals and possibly over the Internet. Assets will be turned over to the housing associations that originally provided the seed money for the department, he said.

    Several local fire companies including Davenport and Dundee showed interest in the fire engine. Dundee Fire Chief Chip Johnson even had the rig driven to town and backed into the fire house.

    "It didn't have enough compartment space for storage," Johnson said.

    Dundee is searching for an inexpensive way to replace its rescue squad with a truck that can respond to car accidents with power tools while maintaining the ability to pump water, Johnson said. Grenelefe's truck was primarily designed as a first response engine to house fires, he said.

    Some items like automated external defibrillators have already been turned over to the homeowners association, Clugston said. He was unsure what the group planned. Homeowners association council president Gary Gardner, who attended the Grenelefe fire department's final board meeting, could not be reached this week.
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    Thumbs down STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!

    I can't believe so many ignorant peoiple live in a single community. I don't know how Stan and some other excellent Fire/Rescue people that I know in Florida operate in such a hostile environment. Stay Safe....
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    I believe as history has shown many a time a tragedy must occur for people to realize their folly. Maybe tomorrow, maybe 10 years from now something is going to happen and people will be heard to exclaim "Why don't we have a fire truck here?!?"

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    Hwoods....it all depends on where you live. But beleive me....you would not believe some of what I see as I travel. I have not actually seen this pumper (went looking for the station once and could not find it)but I understand it is in relatively good condition.
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    Liability laws also come into play.

    I used to work at an R&D center, and corporate policy was all lab machinery had to be destroyed. We had some good, expensive equipment that no longer suited our needs but it could neither be sold nor donated to a college due to concerns if something happened down the road -- the injured party could come back, suponea our maintenance records, accuse us of having failed to properly repair something, yadda yadda yadda.

    Similiarly some cities are concerned about injured parties coming back and suing them alledging, say "You gave away a truck knowing the brakes where bad!" Sending them off to Guatamala gets them out of the U.S. legal system, or sending them to a junk dealer lets the city say they where sold as junk since they where unfit for use as intended.

    Missouri is one State, and I believe Texas too, which has setup specific programs that either relieve the donor of legal liability or wash the legal liability through the State's sovereign immunity (in Missouri, the State Fire Marshal accepts the items, distributes them assuming all liability, and then if the SFM is sued, the State can turn around and say "Can't sue us, we're a State and we're not allowing you to.")

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    Your right Texas does have a program called "helping Hands" that allows corporations to make donations to volunteer fire depts. It is administered by the Texas Forest Service.

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