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    Question What the Heck?!?!?

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    Now I don't claim to be an expert by any stretch of the imagination.
    But #1 wouldn't that be a pain in the Butt to drive and #2 how the heck would you fit that monstosity in the station?
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    That falls into the category "We have it because it's new."

    Better not let Bob the tow truck driver join the department because he'll see that piece and decide he can hook a tractor trailer with it.

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    It detaches. It's only put there when they need to use it. Many Heavy Rescue trucks have sported some type of "crane" lifting device.

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    Question Bob's gonna do whaaat?

    Kevin,more strength there than appears.Unit has a ten ton rating but I'm not sure if the winch does.I don't know about tow truck Bob,but I can tell you DC TC not only could do quite a lot with that unit but I could probably get Kevin a little eyeopener righting a schoolbus with it.Since you're from NH have you attended Big Rig Rescue in Concord or do you have plans to?T.C.

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    It detaches? OK. Perfect, now where in the hell do you put it when it is "detached" and how prey-tell do you move it once it is detached??
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    Looks like a great rig, we have an older Pierce minus the frame derrick. I wish we would have thought of it.

    Many rigs, most notable, FDNY rescues have the detachable derricks. It is a great tool to be added. About the only thing I like better is the Loveland Symmes rig with a crane mounted on it. http://pafirefighter.net/Extreme/lovland.htm
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    Ok I have now learned something. I guess that it takes a few guys to set that thing up. And I bet that it take up a heck of alot of space.
    I like the Loveland truck, looks like it could really pick up some heavy stuff.
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    My guess is that it breaks down into individual tubes -- so a couple guys can handle it, and store it flat.

    There nothing new but are uncommon, and helps fill a gap between having to weight for a wrecker, and not being able to justify the cost of a hydraulic crane, like Lutherville, MD (see http://www.lvfc.com/article.cfm?id=38 )

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    The oilfield industry has been using these forever. They call them Gin Poles, Frame derricks, Breakapart lifts, etc. The fire service has also been using them for many, many years on Heavy Rescue apparatus. The poles are detachable and can be stored up top in a long compartment out of the way of more often used pieces of equipment. 2 people can set one up in about 5-6 minutes. All it takes is those two mated together on the front or rear of the rig, a solid winch and you can do some decent lifting of objects, use it as a cable guide, stabilize a large vehicle or object, etc. It is in no way a crane or meant to take a cranes place. Just another piece of equipment as an option. Just some thoughts.

    Stay low and move it in.

    P.S.: I wouldn't say they purchased it just because the rig was new. I think it is a good option to have because you never know when you might need it.
    Stay low and move it in.

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    Nice Rig the only problem is see is that it is a Pierce
    Here is a Seagrave




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    That is not a Pierce but a Seagrave rescue.

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    Originally posted by Weruj1
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    Here is a truck that would make me feel better about trying to lift or stabilize something. A nice plus is the secondary use, (or primary, depending on how you look at it.)

    .Heavy Rescue 56

    Yeah, yeah. I am a tow truck operator part time. It is a nice theory for the city though. Good use of an expensive piece of equipment, dual pupose. It'll hold darn near anything you want too.

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    Look at some of the jobs they have done with LAFD 56.A number of them I would have approached differently as they did not set the truck up on site to gain maximum advantage.Apparently they get away with it,but I like to keep the length of the truck working for me whenever possible.Not many depts. keep a dual purpose rig around.In qualified hands a very powerful weapon.T.C.

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