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    Default Music Radios on Engines

    Do your engines have music radios on them?

    my engines don't. We look at it this way, if your responding to a call (especially if its a worker) you dont have the time to listen to the music. it would be a waste. You need to have a serious additude when responding, and listening to music while responding wont give you that feeling, unless of course you want to be like E17 from Backdraft.
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    Yes, we have Stereo/Cassette players in both our engines.

    And you are right, listening to the radio while responding to a call would be stupid, at least. And it does not have to be a worker. You probably respond to a lot more emergencies than "workers"

    But, while sitting watching an electric wire for 3 hours, when repacking 1000' of hose after the fire, when sitting eating lunch at the training ground, when returning from training classes a distance away, when on a fireworks standby, during a parade, etc. the radio and it's external speaker comes in nice.

    Did you take the stereo out of your car?

    Congratulations on realizing you need a serious attitude, that will keep you going far.

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    I'm with Bones on this one...

    Our old Mack only had an AM radio, not good times while waiting for PECO and the Fire Police couldn't make it.

    Our new KME has a AM/FM/CD Player, good times when rolling all the hose in, or when on traffic detail and the Eagles are on!

    Just remember when NOT to turn it on!!
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    your right bones, i can't believed i overlooked the boring part where a radio comes in handy.

    Yes, there have been times where i wished we had a music radio. This past Friday for example, were cleaning up from a 2 Alarm job we had in a mutual aid town and i'm putting stuff back on the truck. The only thing you hear is the engine running, nothing else to listen to except that.

    And yes bones, we respond to more emergencies than workers. I was just saying that when we get our couple workers per year, the attitude needs to be a serious one (which it always is with my guys) the juniors in my dept (including me) when we get a worker, we get SERIOUS!
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    Ours do we usually don't have them on very loud

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    Most of our apparatus have a tape deck w/ AMFM radio. If all we had to do was listen to each other talk, there would be a lot more fights in the firehouse (I'm half joking). Power to the stereo can be controlled by both the driver and the officer so you don't have to worry about it blaring when the time is not appropriate.
    Our new KME has a AM/FM/CD Player, good times when rolling all the hose in, or when on traffic detail and the Eagles are on!
    Well, atleast you know the stereo will work when the engine breaks down... then again, that might even draw too much power for the KME!

    Just kiddin', Devil .

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    we have am/fm radios in our rescue truck, brush truck and officers truck. our new quint will have am/fm and cd player in it.

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    Fire Engines dont need Music radios. They are for transporting firemanto and from scenes and for fighting fires not for entertainment.
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    Default Re: NO!

    Originally posted by MVFD81
    Fire Engines dont need Music radios. They are for transporting firemanto and from scenes and for fighting fires not for entertainment.


    Need I say more
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    We dont got them. I see the pro's and cons of them, the pro's are nice but the main con useing it at the wrong times, and haveing a taxpayer with a bug up there bum complain that since the fd can afford a music radio then they dont need new hose,gear etc.

    For some reason I see this thread going the way of "Pagers in school" 9 pages of pointless argueing and fighting and still havent found a compromise.


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    Originally posted by MVFD81
    Fire Engines dont need Music radios. They are for transporting firemanto and from scenes and for fighting fires not for entertainment.



    Originally posted by nmfire

    Need I say more

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    what dex not in the mood to do a lil bit of arguing??

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    Fire Engines dont need Music radios. They are for transporting firemanto and from scenes and for fighting fires not for entertainment.
    When you've been to a few more calls in the adult world Mike, you'll realize how boring some of our jobs can get when waiting for Coroners, Investigators, etc to arrive and complete their tasks, etc.

    There is absolutlely no valid reason why an emergency vehicle can not have a radio, cd player, etc. in their vehicles...


    You need to have a serious additude when responding, and listening to music while responding wont give you that feeling
    Just like everything- there's a time and place for everything.

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    Originally posted by lutan1
    Just like everything- there's a time and place for everything.

    Isn't that right MVFD81?
    Oooh, sucker punch!!!

    Back on subject... Yes, there is a time and a place for everything. Obviously Mr. Mike has never had to babysit powerlines for 4 hours or drive to a training function that is 2 hours away.
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    I don't see a problem with having them fire apparatus. We have them in 2 out of 3 ambulances (the oldest one doesn't. I believe it's a 1982) our new mini-pumper (utilized by the part-time personnel during the day) and our 2 Jeep Cherokees and 2 Crown Victorias.

    In fact, depending on the type of vehicle you purchase and the chasis, you would probably pay MORE to get the vehicle WITHOUT a stereo.

    Like people said before, there is a time and a place for everything. If you can't figure out when it is a "bad time" to listen to music, you probably have a lot more issues that need to be taken care of first.......

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    We have a radio in our engine. Its on most of the time when we take the truck to get inspected, details, parades, and all that other stuff. I dont have a problem if someone is neccessarily listening to it enroute, as long as it is low. And to the best of my knowledge the speakers only work in the back. Its used more for background noise.

    But I have heard of some departments that have it worked that once you hit the master of the emergency equipment the radio loses power. I dont know how its done but I know some departments have made that comment before when we were talking about radios.
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    Originally posted by EoneTiller
    what dex not in the mood to do a lil bit of arguing??
    Ehhh Argueing with Mike that he is immature or whatever wont get my lawn cut faster torrmorow,it wont help me drag hose any better,it wont make my hamburgers cook faster,in fact it wont do much of anything really. Mike asked for my advice and I gave it,getting into a arguement over something as petty as this wont solve anything.
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    Originally posted by MVFD81
    Fire Engines dont need Music radios. They are for transporting firemanto and from scenes and for fighting fires not for entertainment.
    Great ... from now on then, I'll tell every little kid who wants to climb in the back of the engine, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    Any time someone wants to take a picture of our apparatus, I'll tell them, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    When the little league team that we sponsor wants the engine to come to their last game, I'll tell them, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    When the hospital wants an engine to come to their charity event to support the children's burn center, I'll tell them, sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

    The next parade that comes up, I'll tell the crew, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    The next time a lifetime, retired member, who faithfully served the department for 50 years passes away, I'll tell the family, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    What else can we rule out?

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    We have stereos/CD players in almost every vehicle so we must be in trouble of not "having a serious attitude when responding". I will strictly patrol myself and my partners so that we don't get the wrong "feeling" enroute and may god strike us down if either of us tells a joke or cracks a smile during a response. I just love it when some youngster feels the need to tell forum members how we should act or respond, rather amusing.

    Long and short, if you are not mature enough to know how and when to use a stereo in a fire or medic unit then you are not mature enough to be riding in it in the first place.


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    Default Re: Re: NO!

    Originally posted by PAVolunteer

    Great ... from now on then, I'll tell every little kid who wants to climb in the back of the engine, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    Any time someone wants to take a picture of our apparatus, I'll tell them, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    When the little league team that we sponsor wants the engine to come to their last game, I'll tell them, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    When the hospital wants an engine to come to their charity event to support the children's burn center, I'll tell them, sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

    The next parade that comes up, I'll tell the crew, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    The next time a lifetime, retired member, who faithfully served the department for 50 years passes away, I'll tell the family, "sorry, FIRE ENGINES ARE FOR TRANSPORTING FIREMEN TO AND FROM SCENES AND FOR FIGHTING FIRES NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT."

    What else can we rule out?

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    Originally posted by PAVolunteer

    Well, atleast you know the stereo will work when the engine breaks down... then again, that might even draw too much power for the KME!

    Just kiddin', Devil
    OUCH!!!! That's gonna leave a mark!!


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    I agree completley but there is still alot of time spent driving around to get things, driving back to the station, getting moved up. The music would beable to remove the dull atmosphere. There are alot of ambulances in my county that are puting music in and it truly helps the atmosphere when not responding.

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    Much like 'Devil said my KME has a CD player. The Chief asked about getting taken out and they said it would cost about $200. So needles to say....its still in the truck. And our you have to turn on all the time, so its off during a response because we have better things to do than turn the radio on.


    And we have had NO problems with either of our KME's. As opposed to our Pierce and our neighbors multiple probs with thier EONE. But hey as long as its RED and it hauls water who cares who makes it?
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    Originally posted by FiRsqDvr45
    We have stereos/CD players in almost every vehicle so we must be in trouble of not "having a serious attitude when responding". I will strictly patrol myself and my partners so that we don't get the wrong "feeling" enroute and may god strike us down if either of us tells a joke or cracks a smile during a response. I just love it when some youngster feels the need to tell forum members how we should act or respond, rather amusing.
    well, i've cracked a couple jokes while in the cab, i'll admit it. But lets say your responding into a Dwelling that just went All Hands and the OIC is giving you an order over the radio, however, you're too busy laughing to hear the order thus meaning you can't do what you were ordered to do. Lets say you were ordered to hit the hydrant 2 blocks down, but you blow right by it. Thats a critical water supply that will now take longer to get established.

    There are times for jokes, and there are times to be serious. Maybe you'll find this rather amusing
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    Post Ummm....

    Originally posted by mdoddsjffhnfc


    well, i've cracked a couple jokes while in the cab, i'll admit it. But lets say your responding into a Dwelling that just went All Hands and the OIC is giving you an order over the radio, however, you're too busy laughing to hear the order thus meaning you can't do what you were ordered to do. Lets say you were ordered to hit the hydrant 2 blocks down, but you blow right by it. Thats a critical water supply that will now take longer to get established.

    There are times for jokes, and there are times to be serious. Maybe you'll find this rather amusing
    Sometimes it's just better to not say anything. Do you really, seriously, think that the people posting to this thread are listening to Howard Stern or telling fart jokes on the way to an All Hands?? Seriously, I have read the gamut of posts in this forum in the hopes of helping the juniors and cadets in my station come up with new and interesting things to do and train on.

    To sit here and think that you have the unmitigated gall to lecture some senior firefighters, some with tons more experience than you and I, about proper response etiquette. I believe that the point has been made, ad naseum, that there is a time and place for playing the radio and making jokes during a response. Yet you keep coming back to the same, holier than thou line of thinking. Please do not attempt to lecture, when NO lecture (especially from a Jr. FF) is needed.

    Now, could we please get back to serious business? Like...does a Pierce self-destruct if the radio is turned on or does it just lose all power completely!!!

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    Well Devil you beat me to it. The young lad apparently did not decipher my sarcasm well. I should have been more blunt such as yourself.

    "well, i've cracked a couple jokes while in the cab, i'll admit it."

    Admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting help and curing the issue, good for you.

    "But lets say your responding into a Dwelling that just went All Hands and the OIC is giving you an order over the radio, however, you're too busy laughing to hear the order thus meaning you can't do what you were ordered to do."

    Only say, Pavarotti, has the vocal talent to laugh louder then my units two way radio....

    "Lets say you were ordered to hit the hydrant 2 blocks down, but you blow right by it."

    Sorry, no can do, my medic unit has not a stitch of supply hose on it.


    "Thats a critical water supply that will now take longer to get established."

    All sarcasm aside, you do make a valid point that a primary and secondary supply are very important. I will give you that.

    "There are times for jokes, and there are times to be serious. Maybe you'll find this rather amusing "

    Again another very good point, however this thread has gone towards a joke and you don't seem to notice. It is a shame when guys like Devil come to help spread wisdom and lend a hand to learning and the find posts like "What if a propane truck crashed into a bus full of nuns that toppled off a bridge and landed on a shopping mall and you are in charge as a 14 yr old explorer and by some fluke no senior guys were there" thread. Some people want to see you guys (and GIRLS, Hiya Wannabe!) become great firefighters (and alot of us were Explorers and Juniors)but it is hard when all that seems to be debated are pagers in school and hypothetical situations that would never happen instead of things like help passing Firefighter 1, or learning how to start a Post. (Things we would be glad to ramble about with you all)


    And yes, I do find it quite amusing. Would you care to come lecture my shift on response etiquette sometime?
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