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    What kind of air pack's do you guy's like? Also would you go with 2216 or 4500psi?


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    On the job, I've worn ISI, Survivair & MSA packs. Of the three, I'm partial to Survivair. However, I'm told that's because I've never used a Scott pack.

    Everything I've used has been 2216. I've seen the high-pressure packs, but have never had the chance to try 'em out.

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    We use MSA and like them but scott also has a good product in my opinion it comes down to who you are most comfortable using and which company will give you the best deal!!
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    If you are taking a survey in preparation for spec'ing or buying packs, disregard everything you read here. Get the three or four big players together (MSA, Scott, Survivair, or whoever else) and compare them. Put them on and take them off; try on the facepieces; wear them in smoky conditions; get on and off your rigs wearing them; bang 'em around a little. Then buy the ones you like the best.

    One thing I would recommend, if you can afford the compressor, get 4500psi. The smaller bottles are wonderful.

    If you're just taking a survey, well, we use MSA 4500psi. But there's pleanty of good ones out there.
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    I currently am using a Scott 2216 2.2 SCBA in our department, we are in the process of upgrading to the Scott 5.0, we've tryed many different SCBA when we were deciding but still want to stick with Scott. Every brand and size have the advantages and disadvantages but my personal opinion is that I love the light composite 4500 bottles, less weight to try and lug around on your back
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    You name it, we have it Have two Survivair with 4500psi bottles, I like the smaller bottels. We have more low pressure SCBAs but hope to slowly go to high pressure and new Survivair packs so they are all the same.
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    Last year we bought new Scott Pak 50's 4500. They replaced old 2.2's. I have been a Scott service tech. for over 15 years and recommend them to any one.

    I was out at the factory last year and got to see the NXG2. I think that if you are looking at everything make sure that you check with your Scott Rep. and get a look at it.

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    WE use MSA Airpacks, We have these facemasks I have never seen any other Departments use, everyone elses has the hose hooked to the facepiece, ours dont, i like them that way, also all of ours is 2216.
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    everyone elses has the hose hooked to the facepiece, ours dont
    How does the air get from the bottle to the facepiece?





    You either have a belt-mounted regulator, or a facepiece mounted regulator.
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    Scotts and CairnsAir. We have both 2216 and 4500. We use 4500 for Hazmat. I love the Cairns packs!!
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    we had a meeting a while back with a MSA rep. and he said that the oldest composite tanks are coming up on the 15 year life mark. they are going to tear one apart and see how the bottle held up. if it held up fine they are going to let them stay out longer for 15 years. as long as they pass the compression tests......like what is it every 3 years. just a little fun fact.

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    we use the MSA extreme 4500 composite 30 min bottles and so far they have performed ok..........we were using the Scott old 2.2's
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    Originally posted by jaybird210


    How does the air get from the bottle to the facepiece?





    You either have a belt-mounted regulator, or a facepiece mounted regulator.
    I meant to say that everyone elses hose is permently (Spelling?) attached to the facepiece, ours is the ones with the facepiece mounted regulator, and around here i harldy ever see anyone, they all have the belt mounted regulators. Sorry about the consusion
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    My department just put 30 of the new MSA's in service - facepiece-mounted regulators, 4500# 30 minute bottles, HUDs, and voice amps.

    We evaluated MSA, Scott, and Draeger. Those were the only three companies who bid. We picked MSA because they gave us a better overall deal. Feature for feature, we liked the Scotts better, but felt that either one would give us good service.

    Draeger wasn't in the running because their regulator is a permanent part of the facepiece, and so, when you're considering individually-issued facepieces, Draeger's are out of the ballpark bid-wise. We didn't like the Draegers for other reasons, namely the wiring arrangement of their HUD.

    My department has used MSAs for over 25 years, so we felt comfortable with the purchase.

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    I used Survivair Sigma packs, 2216 psi for several years in really hot humid environment offshore. One thing we found was that Neoprene mask much more comfortable than rubber in this climate. I am a Survivair tech just to maintain these and we really had very little problem. We are now using Draeger PA90 4500 psi and they are not bad. They do have a removable face mounted regulator so personal face piece issue is standard. Draeger is a bit complicated and we have had exhalation valve problems and low alarm whistle problems. Just a personal thing but I like Survuvair

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    My current department has the new latest and greatest MSA face moutned regulator.

    My old department used Scotts....

    My preference is Scott....
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