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    August 26, 2003 -- A huge banner of a grinning, gun-toting Mayor Bloomberg plugging a New Yorker in the back - in the middle of his "I Love NY" T-shirt - was yanked off a Williamsburg building at 1:45 a.m. yesterday as cops stood by to make sure no one interfered.
    "It's my First Amendment right to express myself," irate artist Scott LoBaido said when he saw the denuded building at 136 Wythe Ave. yesterday morning.
    Also ripped off the four-story warehouse - adjacent to Engine Co. 212's shuttered firehouse - were several banners decrying the mayor's decision to close the firehouse.
    Neighborhood activist Paul Veneski was enraged.
    "What he [Bloomberg] is doing to New York City says it all," he said. "He's killing us. That picture said a lot. That's why he wanted it down. But it will rise again."
    LoBaido and local protesters, who've been holding a vigil at the firehouse since it was closed in May, hung the banner last Thursday.
    The demonstrators said it was draped from the building with the permission of the building's owners.
    But the police said LoBaido had acted illegally and slapped him with a summons for "unauthorized sign hanging" yesterday afternoon when he went to the 94th Precinct to retrieve his artwork.
    Witnesses said two men dressed in traditional Hasidic clothing pulled the artwork and banners down after arriving at the building at 1:45 a.m. accompanied by a convoy of police vehicles.
    The witnesses reported that the cops stood around or sat in their cars, keeping a small band of protesters at bay.
    A police spokesman said the cops were there because one of the building's owners and a friend had contacted officials and said they wanted the artwork and banners down.
    The building's owners were out of town and not available for comment.
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    The fire engine yanked from the People's Firehouse in Brooklyn has been quietly moved to Governors Island - infuriating activists who charge the city values the virtually empty harbor outpost over Williamsburg.
    Fire protection for Governors Island will fall to the FDNY next month, when the city takes control of the former military site, now home to only a few caretakers.
    Community activists were smarting that the FDNY chose to use the truck from the People's Firehouse, which neighbors fought to keep open after the city ordered it and five other fire companies closed because of budget cuts.
    "They are closing firehouses, and now they are going to open up a firehouse on Governors Island, where it has no people?" asked activist Paul Veneski.
    "I am outraged," said City Councilman David Yassky (D-Brooklyn). "I just think it is a slap in the face to people whose neighborhoods lost a firehouse - to see a firehouse and fire trucks protecting an uninhabited island."
    A fire official said the rig from Engine Co. 212 is one of four trucks recently moved to Governors Island in preparation for the city takeover.
    Chief Terence McSweeney, a federal firefighter on the island for 17 years, said Engine 212's truck was brought over Aug. 22.
    "We want to know how they can close down any firehouse in the city and put one over here, when firehouses over there do thousands of runs a year and we do maybe 50 runs a year," McSweeney said.
    Engine Co. 212's rig had been guarded around the clock in Williamsburg by protesters. They had camped in front of the firehouse since May to keep the truck inside. But the city prevailed Aug. 12, when only one protester was around. Cops swooped in and took the truck.
    The People's Firehouse has a long history of activism. In 1975, neighbors occupied it for 16 months, forcing the city to reverse its initial decision to close it.
    The FDNY likely will put a five-man engine company on Governors Island and split the estimated $1.2 million annual cost between the city and state.
    "When the city takes over the island, our firefighters will protect it," Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta said yesterday.
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    The controversial closing of six fire-engine companies has increased response times an average of 33 seconds - which Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta said yesterday was "minimal."
    In a testy City Council hearing, Scoppetta presented data from the past three months to the Committee on Fire & Criminal Justice Services showing response times had indeed gone up.
    "Response times in the affected communities increased a weighted average of 33 seconds after the closings, as compared with responses from June through August 2000 to 2002," he said. Four of the shuttered companies respond below the citywide average of four minutes and 48 seconds, and the other two are below the national six-minute standard, Scoppetta said.
    "So far, it's had very little impact, minimal impact, we'll say, on operations because of the numbers I've given you." The closures led to protests by residents of the neighborhoods where the firehouses were located, and by firefighters, who said the closures would endanger lives. Tony Avella (D-Queens) angered Scoppetta when the councilman accused the FDNY of putting firefighters' lives at risk.
    "There's no lack of support . . . in fact the City Council approved the budget with those fire-engine companies closed. You had an opportunity to vote against it and you didn't," Scoppetta said. A peeved David Yassky (D-Brooklyn) said the administration has dug in its heels on reopening shuttered fire companies.
    "In those six areas where the engine companies are, those engine companies get there faster than most engine companies throughout the city," he said. "So it's hard to say it's having a dangerous impact on operations." Peter Gorman, president of the United Fire Officers Association, was not swayed.
    "His argument works for him, but it's not real world," Gorman said. "In reality, it takes over five minutes for Engine 261 to get to [a fire]. That's unacceptable."
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    It's nice to see that Mayor Bloomingidiot cares more about an uninhabited speck of dirt in the harbor than an densely populated neighborhood.
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    It was an early and final exit for six federal firefighters who left Governors Island yesterday as the city began taking over the historic site.Fire protection for the 172-acre island becomes the FDNY's job because the former military outpost transfers from federal to city and state control today."We all had tears in our eyes when we left," said Assistant Chief Terence McSweeney, 53, a federal firefighter on the island for 17 years.McSweeney and his men said they were urged to leave six hours early after an FDNY chief put a team in place.
    "We weren't even given the respect to finish our tour," said federal Firefighter Rich Hyland, 39, who was stationed there for seven years.
    Their exit upset community activists from the People's Firehouse - Engine Co. 212 on Wythe Ave. in Willamsburg - one of six closed in May because of budget cuts.They charged the city shouldn't be protecting a nearly deserted island when it closed six fire companies in Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan.Adding insult to their perceived injury, the fire truck yanked from the People's Firehouse despite heavy protest is going to Governors Island."That's our rig," said Kurt Hill, 54, director of outreach and anti-arson programs for the People's Firehouse, a nonprofit community group named after the shuttered facility."That's from the People's Firehouse, and they are taking it from a community of ... 200,000, and they are stationing it at an almost deserted island, and we think that's just absolutely absurd," he said.The FDNY said for now it is staffing Governors Island with a unit half the size of the federal contingent - a brush fire unit of one officer and two firefighters. The estimated annual cost - $800,000 - is to be shared by the city and the state.
    Usually there are only about 50 emergency runs on the island the entire year. McSweeney and his men said the last fire in a building was a small kitchen blaze several years ago.FDNY spokesman Frank Gribbon said the Governors Island unit will respond to brush fires and medical emergencies but will not do interior blazes. If one should break out, union rules mandate a larger force be ferried in from surrounding companies, he said.
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    I sure would not want to have to work on that island. I guess I could get a lot of studying done though!

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    And yes I think this is a huge slap in the face to members of those neighborhoods that had fire campanies closed that protect them.

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    Fire Protection on Governor's Island - Governor's Island was owned by the Federal Government for many years and was under jurisdiction of the U.S. Coast Guard. During this time, fire protection was provided by Federal Firefighters who were union firefighters and members of the I.A.F.F., Local F-0087. In April of 2002, Local F-0087 sent a letter to me and then UFA, Local 94 President, Kevin Gallagher. The Federal Firefighters asked us for our support to retain their jobs, either as civil service or otherwise. I called Local F87 immediately and told them that I would assist in any way possible and would support them as long as the Federal Government funded them and they remained as Federal Firefighters but would never support a private Fire Department. I also told them that the issue should be addressed through the I.A.F.F. 1st District V.P., Kevin Gallagher and the I.A.F.F. District 16 V.P., which represents Federal Firefighters.

    I did not hear back from Local F-0087, but in April 2003, Chief Estebo of the Governor's Island Fire Department made a proposal to reorganize the Federal Firefighters as New York State Firefighters. The main theme of his letter was that he could do it cheaper than the FDNY. It should be noted that there is no civil service title for State Firefighters. In his letter, he states that future firefighters could be recruited from volunteer fire departments and there would be no need to train them again at a fire academy. I objected to Chief Estebo's proposal in the strongest terms to the I.A.F.F.

    We were notified several months ago that the Federal Government would stop funding the Governor's Island Fire Department on September 30, 2003. The FDNY made plans to provide fire protection as it does for the entire City. As such, the Department is soliciting volunteers to fill this new company. We want our members to step up and fill these vacancies. It is unfortunate that the Federal Firefighters are losing their jobs, but the Federal land was sold to New York City and State. It is our firm position that fire protection in this City be provided by the FDNY, staffed by members of the UFA, Local 94 and UFOA, Local 854. It should be noted that there was talk of Rural - Metro providing fire protection. It should be further noted that most of the current Federal Firefighters were hired at "term" employees, that is, they were hired with the understanding that their employment would not be permanent.

    There is a letter currently being circulated by the Governor's Island Fire Department asking I.A.F.F. Brothers not to support the attempt by the FDNY to provide fire protection for Governor's Island. The letter is unsigned and not authorized by I.A.F.F Local F87. I have requested a meeting with the I.A.F.F. Local F87 on this issue.

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