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    Default Illinois OSFM FFII

    I am trying to put together a Firefighter II class. I have instructors lined up, I have course approval, I even have the OSFM outlines and PowerPoints. What I don't have, can't find, and can't get from the Office, is a list of contact hours for each subject area of the three modules. I want to say I remember seeing a list of recommended hours for each topic. Or did they do away with this and simply say, take the time you need to cover the material?
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    Jay,last i knew, there were no set hrs, with the excepation of hazmat, it's 8hrs. the last ffII class we had was done in 20hrs per mod.,less practicals. That kinda sucked caus when i took it, it was 240hrs.

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    Thanks, Larry, that's what I thought. I remember it being 240 hours, also (1991), but when IFSI taught a class last fall next town over, they didn't have anywhere's near that many contact hours. It was more like 140. I'm told there was almost no lecture, though.

    Right now, the syllabus I've got laid out puts us at 45 hours for Mod A, 24 hours for B and C, plus 8 for HazMat. And then fill in any extra practicals....
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    only 20 hrs./ mod? I might even get some guys to put that much time into it. Jay, when I taught/took the class, it was 240 hrs., too. Took us 2 years to finish, but we got 11 out of 13 certified. Not too bad considering I taught it and learned it at the same time.
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    Jay, I'm in the majority with the rest of the guys. I received my FF 2 in 89 in the 240 hour format. Since the updates in the curriculum, I've used blocks of instruction instead of setting a time limit for each subject. I'd rather take my time, be thorough and make sure my students understood what I was talking about instead of restricting learning to a set time period.

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    Default CR please clarify something for me!

    That's when men were men and women were glad of it?

    Is that what you ment to say or was it " That's when men were men and sheep were scared."

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    Jay , heres what i can remenber,for cert coarse you need ifsi's okey dokey also need site approval, and as long as you meet the objectives as outlined in the "blue book" no set hrs,except hazmat.

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    WOW !!!!!!!!!! In Ohio you can take FFII in 2 ways .........one take the initial 36 hour class (that will sone be changed to 84 I think) then you can take the remaing session to accumulate 240 hours of training or take the basic class and go on to 240, now that is done @ the academy also I believe no matter what class you have to spen X amount of hours doing X amount of lecture and skills.......oh .....sorry .........no one really asked what we do in Ohio ........
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    In my supreme arrogance, I actually think youse guys would want to see some pics from the practicals.

    These are entanglement hazards.
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    Jay, thats just EVIL!

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    Geez;
    Why don't you just throw them in a big aquarium with piranhas and man-o-wars?
    Then tie a chicken around their neck and let 'em play with the alligators.
    Seriously; is that all you got?
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    LOL.........................and then there is that !
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    Holy old thread Batman, I know.

    What's the scoop on this? I'm finding hours for FFII in Illinois ranging from 100 hours for the online version to 280 hours.

    Is there still no "minimum" if you can document that all practicals were completed, and all lectures performed?

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    Angry Entanglement

    What is that entanglement drill trying to prove- what a waste of time. I've been through a similar obstacle, and guess what; I got entangled. I learned nothing from it except not to crawl under a FusterCluck of wires.

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    We use it with our recruits to teach two things - how not to panic when you're entangled and can't see what's got you, and how to get yourself out. We allow our guys to cut their way out.

    Like much of what we do, we make the training so much more that what we'll likely encounter in a real fire, that when it happens for real it doesn't seem that bad.
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    I could have sworn that when I was looking this up a year ago, I found reference to the 240 hour requirement on the OSFM website. Tried to find it tonight and couldn't come up with it. Maybe they've removed/changed it? I'm just finishing up FFII in an online hybrid class put on by the Morton Fire Department, and it was geared for 240 hours of instruction. The self-study and online chat sessions (classroom replacement) counted towards the hours because they could be documented through the website they've set up. That made it nice because the only travel requirements were for the practicals instead of two or three times a week for evening classes.

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    I inquired with the OSFM regarding this, and here is the answer I received:

    There is not a minimum hours listed in the rules for Firefighter II. We base our certification on competency not hours. The average of hours for Firefighter II is around 200.
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