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    Default Your responding to an accident at the intersection of, uh, er...

    um, well, quite frankly we don't know which intersection...just go there and figure out how to get to it!

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    Little confusing I would say!
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    Knowing me I would go around it and then head back towards the direction I came from.



    Anyone know why they have these for? is it just to combine all the roads together?
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    Backdraft, roundabouts are very common in Europe to solve complicated intersections and maintaining some sort of traffic flow. If you look at that pic, you've got five road converging. If that interscetion were in America, there'd be about 25 stop lights (protected left turn, right turn on red, no through traffic, stop for train crossing, no passing) and there'd be a crash there every four hours. If you want to go straight on the road you were on, you just keep turning left until it comes around the other side.
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    Hey Jaybird,
    If you look at that pic, you've got five road converging. If that interscetion were in America, there'd be about 25 stop lights (protected left turn, right turn on red, no through traffic, stop for train crossing, no passing) and there'd be a crash there every four hours.
    Although we don't have room for a parking lot, Jersey still has these (we call them circles) and you can allways tell the outa towners, they either stop in the middle or keep going in circles.
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    I did some Confined Space training in outback Australia a while ago and the fire dept chief was telling me that the new round-about that was installed a few years ago was such a big attraction that the towns people used to come from far and wide just to drive around it!

    He also said they had similar issues with traffic lights- when the first traffic light was installed, people used to drive and regardless of where they were on the road, if they could see that red light- they'd stop!
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    originally posted by SANDSTROMJM
    Although we don't have room for a parking lot, Jersey still has these (we call them circles) and you can allways tell the outa towners, they either stop in the middle or keep going in circles.
    (going around in circles...that'd be me!)
    and this from our good friend drkblram:
    we still have traffic cirles as we call them up here in new england, most in MASS.
    No kiddin'? I didn't think we had these over here in the colonies! Ain't got none in the Midwest, anyhoo. Thanks for the info guys!

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    that guy from Hinckley is SO cultured ! how does he know all of this ?
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    Post Roundabouts....

    I lived in London for a year in 97 and made the mistake of requesting a car!!! On my orientation visit, I get a rental (automatic, but my own car was a 5 speed!!) and try to leave Heathrow, I pull out of the rental car place, hang a left and within the first 1/4 mile is a circle! (I grew up in NYC/North Jersey!!!) I come to a dead halt trying to figure out which way to go!!! I wait for the guy on my right to go and then just copy him!!

    It took a little getting used to, but I was fine by the end of my first day. What's funny is that when I came back to Philly for business and was driving with my wife (then girlfriend) I would reach for the clutch at the same time she would...b/c I was used to driving on the passenger side of the car....and she was driving her car!!! Made her crazy...probably one of the reasons she married me!!!

    Now when I get back to Merry Old England (not as often as I'd like to), I make sure to rent a car for a day!! When we visited Australia, it was no problem to rent a car and hit the Blue Mountains!!! I survived a year of London traffic!!!
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    No kiddin'? I didn't think we had these over here in the colonies!

    Oh...it gets worse!

    The "Right-of-Way" rules are different between MA/RI and CT!

    In MA, cars in the rotary have the right of way...

    In CT, cars entering the rotary have the right of way...

    And on a technical note, England has mostly "Round-a-bouts" and the U.S. traditionally had "Rotaries" -- the engineering difference being round-a-bouts are designed to force drivers to enter them at slower speeds than Rotaries where designed for.

    They work well for moderately-heavy traffic...but when a rotary gets overloaded, oh boy...

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    The Maryland State Highway Administration is installing quite a few roundabouts to address problem intersections. The firm I used to work for was one of the recognized U.S. leaders in developing them. There is a large one they designed about two miles from my office that replaced a five legged signalized intersection that was an absolute disaster during rush hour. They work quite well when properly designed. The key is that the volume of traffic in each of the legs has to be fairly equal so that one leg doesn't get cut off by heavier traffic in the other legs. The biggest issue for their use is educating drivers on the proper way to drive through them. Once the driver gets used to them, they work pretty well. They also continue to work when there is a power outage. By the way, in MD you are to yield to the traffic in the circle.
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    NJ gets better. Right of way on the circle is determined by who has the bigger vehicle or is crazier.

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    Originally posted by Dalmatian90
    The "Right-of-Way" rules are different between MA/RI and CT!

    In MA, cars in the rotary have the right of way...

    In CT, cars entering the rotary have the right of way...

    And RI is smart enough to not have them!!!
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    And RI is smart enough not to have them.

    Not true. There is one in the city that you live in, at the corners of Cranston, Atwood and Oaklawn.

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    Hi I am from Salem In. There is one big circle that runs around their court house. It is weird how people from out of town can't get through it. We have learned to weave in and out just like a maze. There is four streets that lead into this one road. It is different by no means. The fire and rescue get respect there so there is no problem when they go through town. All of the four roads leading into is has to stop and wait till all is clear.

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    Originally posted by cfdeng3
    Not true. There is one in the city that you live in, at the corners of Cranston, Atwood and Oaklawn.
    Heh.... shows you how much I get out that way.

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    Originally posted by lutan1
    I did some Confined Space training in outback Australia a while ago
    Had to read that twice!

    Now I'm stuck with a vision of Lutan with a company of tense outback FF's in a 12,000 sqft wharehouse.

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    I just remember back in the 70's Kingsport TN had a circle and it was so neat. I can remember my dad driving through without any problem, but it was rare that you went through the circle without someone hitting someone else. If you ever get a chance to go through one and are not use to it. Try it, it is wild, or if you have one in your town and something big is happening just go sit and watch how the out of towners drive through them. It is a good laugh most of the time. Ha ha, no one gets badly hurt due to speed but it is something to watch.

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    Not true. There is one in the city that you live in, at the corners of Cranston, Atwood and Oaklawn.
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    Yup we have them there roundabout thingies down here.

    REALLY SIMPLE.

    We drive on the left, with right hand drive vehicles.

    Give way to any vehicle approaching from your right, turn left and go around until you can exit at the road you want. one of our better Auckland one has two lanes around it and six feeder roads.

    They do tend to be faster than traffice lights for dealing with multiple intersections.

    When combined with distinct lanes for exits and one way streets, they also provide hours of entertainment watching tourists disapear is a shower of road maps and frustration.
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