I am in charge of conducting fire extinguisher training classes to local businesses. I have been continuing the same hands-on training portion that guys on the department have done for years. I mix 1/2 gasoline and 1/2 diesel in an aluminum turkey pan and torch it off, then have people file through with an extinguisher to put it out. This creates two problems; One is that there is a large amount of black smoke given off, and two is there is no real way to control the flame. I have been looking into purchasing a propane prop and would like to know if there are any recommendations from other departments out there on this subject? Any help is greatly appreciated!
Joe Reed, Public Information/Education Officer
Grand Junction Fire Department
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09-09-2003, 01:47 PM #1
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Fire Extinguisher Training
09-09-2003, 04:36 PM #2
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an aluminum turkey pan? An aluminum Pteranodon pan would be too small. Get at liest a 9 sqft pan, any smaller and it is too easy to put out. Hell 9 sqft is too easy. let the students respect the fire, a candle won't do it.
As for the smoke, fire gives off smoke. Pan fires will not prepare people to deal with a small fire in a structure, but with the smoke they can see what they are in for
09-09-2003, 06:34 PM #3
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We have used a 55 gal drum cut in half lengthwise. I agree, the more smoke, the more realistic.T. Soyars, NREMTP
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09-09-2003, 11:51 PM #4I have been looking into purchasing a propane prop and would like to know if there are any recommendations from other departments out there on this subject?
* Smokeless (Not perfect, but certainly very little)
* Use anywhere (Generate very little heat with a flame of around .5 - 1 metre high) I've used mine directly under installed sprinkler systems in underground carparks with no problems! Beware the VESDA's though!
* No residue
* Don't need to transport jerry cans, etc
* Safe- can kill the gas supply with the flick of a switch (Causes a solenoid on the supply line to close)
* Only use CO2 extinguishers (See next con)
* Electronic components can be damaged by water, foam or powder's
Overall, I like the unit. Perhaps you need to think about who your teaching becasue if they need all forms of extinguishers then these may not be the ideal device...Luke
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