Thread: Helmet markings

  1. #1
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Southwest Ohio
    Posts
    5

    Default Helmet markings

    We are currently switching to a traditional style helmet and are looking for differant ideas as to designating rank. We realize that the front shield can be used but we are interested in different ideas for the back. Our rank structure is Chief, Asst. Chief, Captain, Lieutenant, Firefighter. Other than Chief officers we are planning on using the same color helmet. Not exactly an earth shaking question, but thanks for your help.

  2. #2
    MembersZone Subscriber
    CFD Hazards's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Cranston, RI, USA
    Posts
    381

    Default

    We used to use different color helmets for different ranks. All of our helmets are now the same color, except chiefs, and beside the front shield, the reflective tetra-hedrons are a different color. We have yellow helmets and the reflective stripes are:

    FF-yellow
    LT-orange
    CPT-white

    It works pretty well.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    shammrock54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Posts
    445

    Default

    In my dept we have issued metro helmets w/ the color scheme of:
    FF-yellow
    Lt/Capt-red
    Chief/Dep- white

    For those of us w/ traditional styles we use front shield color scheme of:

    FF- black helmet w/ black shield
    Lt- black helmet w/ white shield
    Capt- black helmet w/ red shield
    Chief/Dept- white helmet w/ gold shield

    * also the officers have their line numbers in large reflective stickers (2") on the back of there helmets (ex 62 is an LT, C7 is a Capt, C1 is chief) for identification from behind *
    Last edited by shammrock54; 10-19-2003 at 02:03 PM.
    Member IACOJ & IACOJ EMS Bureau
    New England FOOL
    "LEATHER FOREVER"
    As always these are strictly my own opinions and views

  4. #4
    IACOJ BOD
    FlyingKiwi's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    4,757

    Default

    We have a simple and easy to understand method here in New Zealand. Check it at http://www.fire.org.nz/more_info/fire_stuff/helmets.htm
    Psychiatrists state 1 in 4 people has a mental illness.
    Look at three of your friends, if they are ok, your it.

  5. #5
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Dec 1998
    Posts
    630

    Default

    We use white for Chief Officers, Red for Captains, Black for everyone else except trainees. Trainees all get orange helmets. All helmets have the front shield with the rank, and reflective chevrons with the rank on both sides. We have stick on lettering with the name on the rear brim.

    The orange helmet makes it easy to identify a trainee especially when working with mutual aid departments. It is also an incentive for the trainee to complete the basic fireifhgter course so they can get rid of that orange helmet.

    Stay Safe
    IACOJ

  6. #6
    MembersZone Subscriber
    ff7134's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    1,093

    Default

    We use different helmet colors

    FF= Black
    Lt.= Yellow
    Red= Capt
    White=Chief & Asst Chief
    AKA: Mr. Whoo-Whoo

    IAFF Local 3900

    IACOJ-The Crusty Glow Worm

    ENGINE 302 - The Fire Rats

    F.A.N.T.A.M FOOLS FTM-PTB

  7. #7
    Forum Member
    1835Wayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Door Village, IN
    Posts
    1,128

    Default

    Umm... Kiwi, I love you man, but that system would confuse the crap outta me!!

    It is all in what you deal with on a day to day basis, so we probably would confuse you with our systems. Come to think of it I am confused by it sometimes myself!!
    I.A.C.O.J. Charter Member
    "Chet, get an inch and a half on that!"

    "Not for fame or reward,Not for place or rank. Not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty as they understood it. These men suffered,sacrificed,dared all, and died. Let us never forget our fallen friends."

  8. #8
    MembersZone Subscriber
    SteveDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,254

    Default

    This has worked well in the UK since WW2, but we have a lot of Ranks in our Big FD's.

    UK Helmets
    Steve Dude
    IACOJ member
    www.fireservice.co.uk

    London Fire Brigade...."Can Do"


    'Irony'... It's a British thing.

  9. #9
    Forum Member
    33motor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    San Antonio, TX.
    Posts
    422

    Default

    Ours:

    FF's Black 1010 with Eng. Co's having a black passport & Tck's having a Red passport

    FAO (engineer) Red 1010 with blue passport & background behind writting

    Cpt/Lt Red 1010 w/ white shield & red background, with red passport

    Chief White 1010 w/ White shield with red background and white or red passport (some chiefs have bought thier own goldleaf shields)
    http://www.sanantoniofire.org

    IACOJ
    Got Crust?

    We lucky few, ... we band of brothers

  10. #10
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Posts
    1,719

    Default

    I would agree with cfdeng3, different color tetrahedrons would probably be the easiest system.

    You can find reflective tape in many colors so you could make up your own color schemes.
    FTM-PTB-DTRT

  11. #11
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Lawng Eyeland, New Yawk, USA
    Posts
    354

    Default

    Since you mentioned that only chiefs will wear a different color helmet, here's a simple solution that's been used in my area for years to identify line officers. Paint the back two slats of the traditional helmet white..this coupled with a white shield on the front easily identifies a line officer from both the front & back.

    If painting will present a problem due to use of fiberglass (see the thread on recoloring helmets), then different color tetrahedrons (reflective "triangles") will do the trick. Simple, cheap & it works...most depts. I know use red for identifying officers since almost all helmets are equipped standard with yellow.

    Ok, well that's my 2 cents, hope it helps you out. Stay Safe...

  12. #12
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    central new york
    Posts
    32

    Default

    ours

    black-ff
    yellow-Lt
    red-Capt
    white-chief

    and for people who have new yorkers
    black with black shield-ff
    black with yellow shield or yellow helmet-Lt
    black with red shield or red helmet-Capt
    white with white shield-Chief

  13. #13
    Forum Member
    Weruj1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 1999
    Location
    NW Ohio
    Posts
    7,857

    Default

    like everyone else we also use colors not specific marking of the same helemt.......Chiefs White, Capts and Lt's yellow.......
    IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT !
    Pardon me sir.. .....but I believe we are all over here !
    ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown)
    RAY WAS HERE 08/28/05
    LETHA' FOREVA' ! 010607
    I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
    "but I guarentee you I will FF your arse off" from>
    http://www.firehouse.com/forums/show...60#post1137060post 115

  14. #14
    Permanently Removed
    CALFFBOU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    CA
    Posts
    6,520

    Default 2 cents...

    When it comes to helmets markings, I like the magnet
    panels. You can attach different titles and units
    numbers. ie- "E-24" and "TO", etc.

    Here is a picture...
    Attached Images Attached Images  

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Log in

Click here to log in or register