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    Default Turnout trim- What is better? Yellow or Orange?

    Hope this doesnt fall in line with "career vs. vollie"
    or "fog vs. smooth bore" but I was wondering what
    might be better on turnout/bunker clothing?

    Yellow or Orange reflective trim???

    I seem to like the orange better since it is
    very visible during the day and the silver
    still sparkles at night.

    Please tell me...What do you think?
    Last edited by CALFFBOU; 11-16-2003 at 02:41 AM.


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    I really haven't noticed, but we use both. The yellow is wore by firefighters and orange is wore by officers. Easy way to tell in the dark if you can't see a helmet color.
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    Default Thanks for that point...

    as a PPE Officer, that is something I have considered.

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    Question for you Brett-

    Are we talking about Reflexite- or Scotchlite?

    The following information is taken from Morning Pride's online catolog (here's the link(s)

    http://www.morningpride.com/mp.asp?t...gs/default.asp
    http://www.morningpride.com/catalogs...og_pp52-58.pdf

    Reflexite
    Advantages of Reflexite include ease of cleaning, ability to reflect equally well wet or dry and resistance to abrasion of the reflective elements. Disadvantages include a relatively low melting point (300º F approximately) and loss of reflectivity after high heat exposures. Reflexite is available in 2” or 3” widths in white (EMS only) or fluorescent lime, 3” lime with white center strip (Lime/White Power Trim) and 3” Orange with white center strip (Orange/White Power Trim) and 3” Orange with Lime center (Orange/Lime Power Trim). Reflexite has a 150 coefficient of reflectivity.

    Scotchlite
    Employs exposed glass bead reflective material. Advantages include higher heat resistance than Reflexite products. Disadvantages include a tendency for the exposed glass beads to abrade off and/or clog with dirt over time (reducing reflectivity) and a slightly lower wet reflectivity. Unlike Reflexite, Scotchlite reflects light back in a silver color (not the trim color). Scotchlite is available in 2” or 3” widths in silver(EMS only) (500 coefficient of reflection), white (EMS only) (100 coefficient of reflectivity), fluorescent orange or lime (175 coefficient of reflectivity).

    Two Tone Scotchlite (Triple Trim)
    Offers the same general characteristics as the one tone Scotchlite and is available in lime and orange. Additionally, this
    product offers the highest heat resistance(500º F) of any trim product and meets FSTM 191, method 5903 (a Project FIRES
    requirement). This 3” width trim features a 1” wide super silver reflective strip (500 coefficient of reflection) centered on 2” of non-reflective fluorescent backing at a total package coefficient of 150. The new two tone features a mid silver strip incorporated into the backing for improved durability. This new trim has slightly fuzzy demarcation between the silver and fluorescent areas (available with both Orange and Lime fluorescent backgrounds) . Also, on occasion the width of the new silver strip will vary slightly.


    Hope this helps ---
    Last edited by FFMcDonald; 11-16-2003 at 09:10 AM.
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    My recommendation is lime yellow triple trim (w/Scotchlite). My personal opinion is that it provides much better visibilty in all types of conditions.
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    I've noticed all the DOT guys are scrapping their orange vests in favor of lime. Maybe they look less like a "Road Construction Ahead" sign (although I'm starting to see lime caution signs around, too).
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    Originally posted by ullrichk
    I've noticed all the DOT guys are scrapping their orange vests in favor of lime. Maybe they look less like a "Road Construction Ahead" sign (although I'm starting to see lime caution signs around, too).
    I know several cities that have adopted lime green warning signs for school zones. The reasoning is that they stand out from orange or yellow warning signs. Of course, when all warning signs are lime... they'll start saying that neon pink (or something) is a better color because it stands out. It's a continuous cycle.

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    Originally posted by cozmosis


    I know several cities that have adopted lime green warning signs for school zones. The reasoning is that they stand out from orange or yellow warning signs.
    And they are trying not to look like those darn moving traffic cones .
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    Brett, you feeling alright bro?

    I think you've been hanging around those "Gen-Y" people too long...LOL Are you going to ask how many blue lights and pagers we have next?
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    Originally posted by Adze39
    Brett, you feeling alright bro?

    I think you've been hanging around those "Gen-Y" people too long...LOL Are you going to ask how many blue lights and pagers we have next?
    Have you read all of the threads in the explorer fourm there Brett? But to answer the question, I think the orange is more visable, but I like the yellow better my, current gear has yellow scotchlite
    (sp) on it.
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    Default Thanks Adze...

    Originally posted by Adze39
    Brett, you feeling alright bro?

    I think you've been hanging around those "Gen-Y" people too long...LOL Are you going to ask how many blue lights and pagers we have next?
    Adze- You are too funny. I should have known you would have
    popped in here. I figured I was setting myself up for the
    "pagers and lightbars" rants, but I just had to ask this
    since I usually get good feedback from the peeps in here.

    -Bou aka Brett

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    Another consideration is the color contrast with your turnouts with regard to daytime visibility. Yellow reflective tape can begin to blend into yellow nomex, orange would be better there. In Australia these days just about everybody is using yellow tape with a narrower silver sripe up the middle giving yellow/silver/yellow, which seems to show up better both in the daytime and of course at night than straight yellow. - Peter

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    BTW, I voted yellow
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