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    Default In need of helmets

    If anyone has any helmets in decent shape please contact me at Trauma44004@hotmail.com or you can check out our website at http://www.ptfdexplorers.org

    Thank you,
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    I wish I had some helmets to donate or sell, but I don't. I checked your website out, not bad.

    Check mine out.

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    Thanks Rob, Nice site. Keep in touch.
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    If you can get other color helmets, get them, buy some spray paint and a good spraypainter and paint them. We do the same thing, but with blue. Its easy and cheap, at Wal-Mart you can get spray paint for under a buck. Mine has held up well.
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    Thanks for the information. I'll try it. If anyone has any helmets please let me know. It will be greatly appreciated.
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    Hey trauma. This is Ben from the Concord Explorer post, I believe we met at the Boy Scouts meeting at our station a little while back. Anyway, about helmets. We purchased 10 Morning Pride Lite Force 4 helmets from a volunteer company in PA for $40 per helmet. These helmets were only in service for 6 months, when the department switched to different helmets. The helmets were originally bright yellow, but our explorer advisor and I are in the process of painting them black. We have used this method:

    1) dissasemble helmet, removing oiner and faceshield

    2) remove all stcikers with a razor blade and goof off (the helmets
    we got have 8 large stickers on them and take about an hour to
    de-badge)

    3) remove sticker residue using mineral spirits

    4) lighty sand with fine grain sandpaper

    5) spray with acyrlic spray pain in 2 light coats

    6) spray with acyrlic clear coat

    We are almost finished with these. When we are done, you can come cy and have a look, or I can email some pictures. In the mean time, I will lokk around for helmets for you guys.


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    Thanks Ben. Yeah I'm interested in seeing them. Hope to see you guys at the January roundtable. Bring anyone who wants to come for the explorer portion. I think its a good thing to get all of you from different departments together to share ideas. Hope you can come to this years combat challenge. Log on to our site so we can keep in touch.
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    I approached the powers that be about the spray paint they say they won't try it because the paint won't take heat.
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    The paint will take heat well, and why in the world do you need your paint to take high temps?
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    The paint will take heat well, and why in the world do you need your paint to take high temps?
    Exactly what I was thinking 985. Why would curb sitting ems explorer posers need helmets to take the heat?
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    Hey Trauma, spray paint takes the heat fine. We sprayed ours blue. We had a training fire last summer and we got to do evolutions and the paint held up fine. Just don't put a lot clear coat on it.

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    Trauma!!! Here is our what our helmets look like, just for example
    Hey Stm not to be "Rude" or anything but it doesn't matter if your a "Curb" sitting EMS Explorer or a Fire Explorer we all play a part in getting the job done.Just my 2 cents
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    GFD, is that a Bullard? Say it ain't so........
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    Yeppers, good old Bullard POS. I hate the damn thing!!! I wish we could get blue Cairns 1010's or 880's.

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    1010s are good lids, haven't come across a new 880 yet. I like my Chieftan 1910 Tradtional because its comfortable, lit enough for comfort, heavy enough too feel protected, and it was FREE!!!!!
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    If you had asked this in May, I was looking to sell my black Ben 2 Plus for $175, to buy my leather. The Ben 2 only had 4 training burns on it, two acquired structures and the burn building twice. No distortion of the bourkes or anything, just a little smoky, and no damage to the goggles because they stayed in my pocket so they wouldn't get burnt up. Sorry man, but the leather isn't for sale, and when I finally take it OOS, it's going on the wall and a new one will go in service.
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    Originally posted by WFDjr1
    If you had asked this in May, I was looking to sell my black Ben 2 Plus for $175, to buy my leather. The Ben 2 only had 4 training burns on it, two acquired structures and the burn building twice. No distortion of the bourkes or anything, just a little smoky, and no damage to the goggles because they stayed in my pocket so they wouldn't get burnt up. Sorry man, but the leather isn't for sale, and when I finally take it OOS, it's going on the wall and a new one will go in service.
    My deparment wouldn't allow me to have the helmet anyways. We are not allowed to use a any company other than Bullard or Cairns. Another reason is cause it has Bourkes and the upper brass doesn't want anyone having Bourkes.It is a safety issues. So we are stuck with big platic face shields!!!

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    The leather is a Cairns.

    Another reason is cause it has Bourkes and the upper brass doesn't want anyone having Bourkes.It is a safety issues. So we are stuck with big platic face shields!!!
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the big plastic faceshields aren't NFPA approved either. They should issue you guys safety glasses or goggles as well, to meet NFPA standards. I do have to agree that bourkes provide a lot less protection than a faceshield does.
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    Ok guys understanding that Explorers and or Juniors are not allowed to enter structure fires, does not mean ya can just spray paint your helmet. By painting your helmet you void the warrainty and risk breaking down the fiberglass that makes up most modern day helmets. Even if you are not allowed doing interior attacks you still need a helmet that is safe, and by applying any kind of paint you make the helmet weak and unsafe. Please do not paint your helmet for any reason. It comes that colour from the factory for a reason. If ya need a certain colour please order it that way.

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    Originally posted by firedog21
    Ok guys understanding that Explorers and or Juniors are not allowed to enter structure fires, does not mean ya can just spray paint your helmet. By painting your helmet you void the warrainty and risk breaking down the fiberglass that makes up most modern day helmets. Even if you are not allowed doing interior attacks you still need a helmet that is safe, and by applying any kind of paint you make the helmet weak and unsafe. Please do not paint your helmet for any reason. It comes that colour from the factory for a reason. If ya need a certain colour please order it that way.

    Stay Safe
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    Ok, then you can give them the money to buy their new ones.
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