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    Angry Quotes from Howard Dean campaign "Blog for America"

    Leslie in SF: "I think it is shameful that the ACLU has not commented on the obvious mistreatment Hussein has suffered at the hands of the American military."

    Muslims4Dean: "If the Death toll mounts--good. It will teach the American people not to support Nazi Republicans who invase [sic] Muslim lands."

    Johnny Smith: "Muslims4Bush [sic]-- don't think we can put it that way. We don't want Americans to die. But if Bush will not bring our boys home--then they're going to have to die so that Howard Dean can win."



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    Howard Dean is a Moron. I think he is even a Bigger Moron than John Kerry.

    At this point in time, if I absolutely had to choose a pinko, commie Democrat, I would pick Liebermann.

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    Originally posted by TillerMan25
    Howard Dean is a Moron. I think he is even a Bigger Moron than John Kerry.

    At this point in time, if I absolutely had to choose a pinko, commie Democrat, I would pick Liebermann.
    TillerMan is right. Howard Dean has no concept of the larger implications of foreign affairs. He will be a disaster for America. Kerry is now a non-entity.

    Besides having a grip on reality, Lieberman is, at least, a decent human being. Although that never helped Jimmy Carter, that could compensate for alot.

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    The majority of Americans who feel that Lieberman is the best candidate are afraid of his religion and the impact it would have with all the Mid-East turmoil. I personally don't give a rat's patoot, what the Arab world thinks about our choices. Joe Lieberman has, in fact, remained the most non-partisan of all the players on both sides of the aisle.

    Go ahead George...

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    Originally posted by E229Lt
    The majority of Americans who feel that Lieberman is the best candidate are afraid of his religion and the impact it would have with all the Mid-East turmoil. I personally don't give a rat's patoot, what the Arab world thinks about our choices. Joe Lieberman has, in fact, remained the most non-partisan of all the players on both sides of the aisle.

    Go ahead George...
    You're 100% right. I still won't vote for him, but you're right.

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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI


    TillerMan is right. Howard Dean has no concept of the larger implications of foreign affairs. He will be a disaster for America. Kerry is now a non-entity.

    Besides having a grip on reality, Lieberman is, at least, a decent human being. Although that never helped Jimmy Carter, that could compensate for alot.
    .... Ok just a quick question. Since you agree with Tillerman George, do you consider all Democrats to be "pinko commies" ?... And by the way, Dean WILL NOT win the nomination (my crystal ball told me so)

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    Sorry, I forgot to add the "PC" term for a Pinko-Commie: Socialist.


    Liebermann's religion, I agree, may have an impact on some Mid-East relations. When he was running with Gore, I always looked to Joe for the wisdom of the team. Joe Liebermann is one step away from being a Republican. I normally will not listen to someone who even considers themselves to be a Moderate, but ol' Joe seems to have it right.
    Compared to the other candidates, he has kept his Bush Bashing to a minimum and is always a delight to hear when being interviewed. I heard him on O'Reilly and Hannity and he was able to engage in Factual and intelligent conversations with both of those correspondents without the usual Liberal Backpedaling.


    So like I said, if there were one Pinko I had to choose from, and this is only if Bush completely screwed up the rest of his term and I had no choice, Joe Liebermann would have my vote. (P.S. I met him once at a Judicial Finction and he was just a damn nice guy too.)

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    Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
    .... Ok just a quick question. Since you agree with Tillerman George, do you consider all Democrats to be "pinko commies" ?... And by the way, Dean WILL NOT win the nomination (my crystal ball told me so)
    Of course not. I agree with him conceptually. The name-calling will eventually get him booted off of here, like so many before him.

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    Thanks to the number of Screen Names AOL lets you have now, they can Kick me off of here at least 7 times! (Still on the first one!)

    And I think some of these guys deserve the name calling. And you all know, my range of offensiveness has no limit nor do I have any concern for those I offend. For every person who is offended, there is another who isn't and agrees with me.

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    So Chris, are you for a one party system in the U.S. ?

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    Do you actually believe that those inflammatory screen names actually represent Dean supporters? I'm no Dean supporter, but those posts were obvious attempts to discredit Dean. Dean has been a victim of this type thing before. I just read an article today about position papers that contained ridiculous ideas being sent out and credited to Dean.

    The one about Saddam, I believe that one. There are some, including a vatican official, who feel he has been mistreated.

    Tiller, you would gain a lot of credibility here if your posts weren't littered with stuff like this



    Howard Dean is a Moron. I think he is even a Bigger Moron than John Kerry. At this point in time, if I absolutely had to choose a pinko, commie Democrat, I would pick Liebermann.
    Take a lesson from your conceptual counterpart George. Use your brain, not O'Reilly's or Hannity's.
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    Take a lesson from your conceptual counterpart George. Use your brain, not O'Reilly's or Hannity's.
    That's a compliment, right?

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    That's a compliment, right?
    Without question. His posts do nothing but discredit him. Here is an example from the thread you are ignoring.

    I bet Liberals go to bed Dreaming of a U.S. Defeat in Iraq so they can at least pretend someone gives two s--ts about all the BS coming from them.
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    Originally posted by Duffman


    Without question. His posts do nothing but discredit him. Here is an example from the thread you are ignoring.

    I haven't been posting there, but I have been reading it. There are some great examples of intellectualism over there.

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    Iraqi Minister Scolds U.N. for Inaction Regarding Hussein
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    Published: December 16, 2003

    UNITED NATIONS, Dec. 16 — Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, accused the United Nations Security Council today of having failed to help rescue his country from Saddam Hussein, and he chided member states for bickering over his beleaguered country's future.

    "Settling scores with the United States-led coalition should not be at the cost of helping to bring stability to the Iraqi people," Mr. Zebari said in language unusually scolding for an occupant of the guest seat at the end of the curving Security Council table.

    "Squabbling over political differences takes a back seat to the daily struggle for security, jobs, basic freedoms and all the rights the U.N. is chartered to uphold," he said.

    Taking a harsh view of the inability of quarreling members of the Security Council to endorse military action in Iraq, Mr. Zebari said, "One year ago, the Security Council was divided between those who wanted to appease Saddam Hussein and those who wanted to hold him accountable.

    "The United Nations as an organization failed to help rescue the Iraqi people from a murderous tyranny that lasted over 35 years, and today we are unearthing thousands of victims in horrifying testament to that failure."

    He declared, "The U.N. must not fail the Iraqi people again."

    It was not immediately clear how the accusatory tone of Mr. Zebari's speech affected the closed-door discussion over the United Nations' role in Iraq that followed, but Secretary General Kofi Annan, the first to emerge from the hall, appeared taken aback.

    "Now is not the time to pin blame and point fingers," he told reporters. Saying that Mr. Zebari was "obviously entitled to his opinion," Mr. Annan said that the United Nations had done as much for Iraq as it could under the circumstances and was prepared to do more.

    "Quite honestly," he said, "now is not the time to hurl accusations and counter-accusations."

    Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry of Britain, the United States' principal ally in Iraq, said there had been pointed questioning by colleagues but that he detected "strong support" from them for the new timetable for the American-led coalition to hand over power to Iraqis by July — and for drawing up a constitution and holding elections in the years following that Mr. Zebari had laid out.

    Today's session of the 15-member council was called to discuss the speeded-up plan for the United States-led coalition to hand over power to Iraqis by the end of June under an agreement reached a month ago between the coalition and the Iraqi Governing Council.

    Mr. Annan led off the open session of the council with a speech drawing from his report last week that ruled out a swift return of the United Nations to Iraq because of the bombing of its Baghdad headquarters in August and continuing attacks on diplomats and relief workers.

    He also said the United Nations needed more "clarity" over what it would be asked to do in Iraq before he could fully recommit the world organization and its international staff. He has assigned 40 of them to staff Iraq aid offices in Nicosia, Cyprus and Amman, Jordan. An estimated 2000 Iraqi United Nations workers are still at their posts in the country.

    Mr. Zebari took issue with these steps, saying that Iraq could guarantee the United Nations whatever security it needed to return sooner and noting the importance of having the organization back in Baghdad.

    "Your help and expertise cannot be effectively delivered from Cyprus or Amman," he said.

    He also took on countries like France that have expressed doubts about the current governing group. "As Iraqis," he said, "we strongly disagree with those of you that question the legitimacy of the present Iraqi authorities."

    He continued: "I'd like to remind you that the governing council is the most representative and democratic governing body in the region."

    He said, "The members of the Security Council should be reaching out and encouraging this nascent democracy in a region well known for its authoritarian rule."

    Ambassador Jean-Marc de la Sabliere of France, a critic of the war, turned aside the criticism of the Security Council dissenters, saying, "I don't want to comment on the past." He said he had questioned Mr. Zebari about France's interest in seeing Iraq increase the "inclusiveness" of the government so it would be one that would be viewed as "totally legitimate."

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    "Now is not the time to pin blame and point fingers," he told reporters. Saying that Mr. Zebari was "obviously entitled to his opinion," Mr. Annan said that the United Nations had done as much for Iraq as it could under the circumstances and was prepared to do more. "Quite honestly," he said, "now is not the time to hurl accusations and counter-accusations."
    Bull scat! If the UN had any legitmacy anymore they would have backed up resolution 1441 in the first place. The UN is quickly going the way of the Leauge of Nations---a nice idea, to bad it didnt work though.
    Kofi Annan is ruining that organization by not standing up to the little whine ball " bullah bullah" countrys, not wanting to offend anyone. Meanwhile while bickering amongst themselves people like Saddam came to power,which is one of the reasons the UN was formed---to stop evil doers like that.

    The UN (unified nitwits)has two options as I see it----shape up and do its job or exit.......stage left.
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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI


    I haven't been posting there, but I have been reading it. There are some great examples of intellectualism over there.
    George, If I may ask, over where?


    And, STM, Unified Nitwits?? ROTFLMAO! Only thing is, I don't think they're unified, they ain't all that bright.......
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    Originally posted by Duffman
    There are some, including a vatican official, who feel he has been mistreated.

    Yeah, the Vatican is SWIMMING in credibility these days....

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    C-buff, for the record, I am not agreeing that Saddam has been mistreated. I offered that only to show that sentiment exists.
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    Originally posted by hwoods


    George, If I may ask, over where?


    And, STM, Unified Nitwits?? ROTFLMAO! Only thing is, I don't think they're unified, they ain't all that bright.......
    In the "unofficial Iraq War Thread". It seems to have been started by someone as either a high school project or a social experiment. It's not worth it.

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    I can care less about being discredited for my views.

    I do not like Liberals, I think Liberalism = Socialism.
    I do not like Political correctness and believe it is turning this country into a colorless, faithless society. How can you have Diversity and Celebrate other cultures if the ACLU and the P.C. Police are around every corner telling people they can't do this and that?

    I am sorry my analogies of the Democratic Party cause discontent amongst the Liberal posters here. I will not stop using those analogies. Democrats (well, progressive democrats and extreme left-wingers) remind me of pinko-commies. What the heck happened to the Old Democratic Party? The AMERICAN Democratic party of the 1940's and 50's? This Anti-government, Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Everything traditional and American crowd needs to be squashed.


    MIKEy, a one party system might not be that bad. Although there are too many people in both parties that the mojority disagrees with. Orrin Hatch is a prime example of a Republican who is too Moderate.

    I think Party affliation should not have any bearing. If the Majority (Thats 51% by the way) of the people agree with the policies of the leader, than Party Affiliation isn't relevant. I pretty much inidcated that by saying I would vote for Lieberman. I cannot sit here and say I disagreed with every little thing Bill Clinton did. I mean if I could have an intern to get my Jollies off with, I would've done the same thing! (Except get caught!)

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    Poll: Dean Pulls Away In Dem Race
    NEW YORK, Dec. 17, 2003

    Howard Dean has the backing of 23 percent of likely primary voters, the same as he did in the days just prior to Saddam's capture.

    Dean has said that while he applauds the U.S.' capture of Saddam, it will not make the U.S. any safer, and most voters agree.
    (CBS) Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean has pulled away from the field in the Democratic Presidential nomination race: his support among Democratic primary voters nationwide has risen in the past month, and held steady after the news of Saddam Hussein's capture. But the race remains open: more than half of Democratic voters still have no opinion of Dean, most have not made up their minds for sure, and large numbers remain undecided.

    Dean has been a vociferous critic of the Iraq war. Most voters believe, as Dean does, that the U.S. is no safer from terror in the wake of the arrest of Saddam Hussein. And while Dean’s rise may have been helped along by former Vice-President Al Gore’s recent endorsement, most primary voters say Gore’s nod makes no difference to them.

    Dean has the backing of 23 percent of likely primary voters, the same as he did in the days just prior to Saddam's capture, and up from 14 percent in November. His nearest rivals today are Wesley Clark and Joe Lieberman, both at 10 percent.

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    Howard Dean in 2004 = McGovern in 1972.

    A Dean Nomination will only further ensure a Bush Victory in 2004. I don't know where these "Most Voters" that do not feel safer since the capture of S.H. are, but I feel safer. I still think it's probably safer in Baghdad than in Detroit, but that's only my opinion. But then again, since I am such a "fool" I guess my opinions hold no weight with the heavy hitters here.

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    Word on the street is that Ralph Nader is thinking seriously about running. Remember 2000? If he runs its curtains for the Dems
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    Thumbs down Ralph Who?..................

    In my not humble opinion, Ralph Nader is an absolute jerk. Remember how he got his first name recognition? Chevrolet's Corvair. I had a Corvair, a '63 Monza Spyder Convertible. Loved it. Nader's meddling caused Chevy to end production of the Corvair. Ralph cried "Unsafe", the truth was, the drivers that crashed them were unsafe. Now Nader is out leading the Tree Hugging party. Jerks, All of them. That's my opinion. Stay Safe....
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