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    Originally posted by PAVolunteer

    ... since you're going back in time and all ... it's much more fun if you reverse the order of items #2 and #3.

    Good luck!

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    You have a point, but why stop there...

    How about like in the "Gangs of NY", where they have a huge drunken brawl just to dicide WHO gets to fight the fire!!!

    Get drunk, ride a hourse drawn steamer (or worse, pull the hand drawn hand humper) to a non fire code building, get drunker, fight the other volunteer fire fighters over who gets to fight the fire, then hook up to your pathetic water supply and fight the fire, which is now probly spreading down the row of giant wooden boxes...

    At least the smoke was healthier back then!

    Ahhh, the good old days.
    -Brotherhood: I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
    -Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of you life is to serve as a warning to others.

    -Adversity: That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.

    -Despair: Its always darkest before it goes Pitch Black.

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    According to the article on firehouse.com today the two that tested positive for drugs had cocaine in their systems.

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    Originally posted by ramseycl
    According to the article on firehouse.com today the two that tested positive for drugs had cocaine in their systems.
    KNOCK IT OFF!!! You're going to burst kentbwj's bubble.

    Sorry, I just had to do it ...

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    Read this before you sit in your mighty towers.Mistakes DO happen Think about it.
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    Here ya go Mikey, I saved everyone the trouble.

    Brothers, Sisters, & Friends:

    Yesterday, Tuesday October 14th, Kevin Credeur was reinstated as a Fire Captain. Kevin had previously been terminated due to a positive drug screen result which, we believed all along was wrong, and now the City Administration admits. The Union hired Louis Robein to represent Kevin and during his investigation and discovery he and his staff uncovered numerous errors by all involved. Before the hearing, City officials met with their experts in the Council meeting room to discuss the irregularities in the laboratory paperwork. Then, in an unprecedented move, the Administration and their legal council quickly met to reinstate Kevin moments before the hearing was to begin.

    The mistakes were many but they began at the local collecting facility when the exact type of test to be performed was not indicated on the collection sheet. The most obvious mistake came from the lab in Texas where, according to their paperwork, Kevin’s sample was logged into a collection “batch” (group of samples) late on the evening of May 22nd and the “batch” summary was computer generated at 12:09AM on the morning of May 23rd, eleven hours before he actually gave his sample around 11:00AM the same day. Impossible! Yet, no one along the way caught the mistake even though subsequent “batch” numbers did not match.

    The drug testing system failed, and a 20 + year veteran with a wife and children was terminated and disgraced. The system failed, and the wrong sample was reported as Kevin’s. The system failed, until the eleventh hour as experts hired by the City finally exposed the truth. The system failed, as the City’s attorney asked that the hearing room be cleared so that the City could secretly make a statement admitting errors to the Board, a request that was properly denied due to the “sunshine law” or public meetings law. THE SYSTEM FAILED!

    Ultimately, those guilty of perpetuating Kevin’s misery and pain, should be held accountable from top to bottom because they were in possession of the same paperwork that the experts and our Attorney Louis Robein used to discover the mass of errors for several months!

    Following the hearing I heard someone in the lobby say “That’s why you join the Union, because we stick together for one another as a Brotherhood”. I couldn’t agree more.

    Sincerely and Fraternally,

    Donald J. Chauvin, President

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    Local #619

    Following the hearing I heard someone in the lobby say “That’s why you join the Union, because we stick together for one another as a Brotherhood”. I couldn’t agree more.
    Jeez where has this statement been for the last hundred threads about the Union and why its so bad.


    And another quote from the other thread about this topic:


    originally posted by FFREDYou have no clue what it means to be a brother. You stick together no matter what. Through the good times and bad. If my (blood)brother had any problems I wouldn't disown him, I wouldn't refuse to help him or give him shelter if he found himself on hard times. I treat the guys in the firehouse the same way.
    The other FDNY thread

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    Quick question for the FDNY guys:

    Why would the largest city in the US, with the incredibly vast amount of resources available at their doorstep, use a lab in TX for it's drug screens?

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    George, maybe I missed it, but where did you see that FDNY uses a lab in Texas? The only thing I saw about a lab in Texas had to do with the Lafayette LA example.
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    Originally posted by SmokeyNY
    George, maybe I missed it, but where did you see that FDNY uses a lab in Texas? The only thing I saw about a lab in Texas had to do with the Lafayette LA example.
    The most obvious mistake came from the lab in Texas where, according to their paperwork, Kevin’s sample was logged into a collection “batch” (group of samples) late on the evening of May 22nd and the “batch” summary was computer generated at 12:09AM on the morning of May 23rd, eleven hours before he actually gave his sample around 11:00AM the same day.

    This is what I was talking about. But I misread the story as being about the FDNY. I'm sorry.

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    Funny to see you quoting from a Union Website that has a section dedicated to It's members who Volunteer when they are off-duty

    Straight from the Lafayette Local 619 Website.


    "2. Union firefighters are so devoted to the profession that many serve on their area volunteer departments. This has proven to be very beneficial to these communities due to the professionalism these members bring with them. Local 619 is proud to announce that the following members are Fire Chiefs of these volunteer departments and many more serve as volunteer firefighters.

    Danny Denais - Broussard,

    Jeremy Breaux - Carencro,

    Jason Simon- Youngsville,

    John Thevenet - Parks,

    Chad Sonnier / Captain - Scott, "

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    Default Apples and oranges

    Tillerman, whats your point? The fact that they have people that volunteer on their time off has NOTHING to do with fouled-up drug test results. Quit trying to turn everything into a paid vs. volunteer debate.
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