Issues In Response To Stations

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

What Are Your Peoples Views In Regards To Speeding When Enroute To The Station For Calls???

[LEWTFL]

Illegal. Unnecessary. Unsafe.
Makes our top cop verbally reprimand us and threaten to cite quite often.
Makes our Chief unhappy. Not good.

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

I Agree...But I Know Here Cops Usually Give Us 10 km/h And I mean At Nite No Traffic Most Feel Its OK To Push The Speed A LIl More...I Don't Need To Usually Cuz My House Is Within 1 Min Of The Station

[LEWTFL]

You say you're within one minute of the station, but at what speed and distance? I'm just a shade over a mile away, but it takes about two minutes. 1.5 for an mva. And I run an old Ford pos.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by KVFDCAPTAIN21
What Are Your Peoples Views In Regards To Speeding When Enroute To The Station For Calls???

Not illegal in the state of OH with emergency lights and siren.

Per our SOG, we have the same response guidelines in POVs as we do in the Apparatus, 20 mph over speed limit except in school zones, which is 20mph maximum. No speeding.

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

Lew Lets Just Say I Can Run and Still Be First There...So Maybe 20 Seconds at 50 km/h

And Fire our Officers which include Safetys,Constables,Lt;s and Capts Can Have a Light but No Sirens and Chiefs Can Have Light And Sirens. But Nowheres i'm quite Sure Anywheres do u Have the rights to legally Break the Speed Limits..Its More Of A Given..But Yes I Am Known When Comin from Work by POV can be to the hall in a minute and 20 roughly and its regularly a 2 min drive...

[NCKSFIRE]

Check you insurance. I don't think your insurance will allow the speeding. I drive the same speed I drive every day to work. Unless road conditions are such that you have to slow down. We worked an accident today. I put the Rescue in the ditch at the scene. Snowpacked ice, Came to the highway where the accident was and turned onto it after stopping at the stop sign and hit a patch of ice no steering and brakes. Came to a slow stop down in the ditch next to the vehicle. Only had to carry the tools about 30' to the truck. Our rescue is a '73 Dodge ambulance. I am sure we are way over on the GVW. New tire with some more tread might have helped. There is no way to exceed the speed limit in it. It is screaming at 55 mph

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

Lucky Nicks. We had an operator put their truck over an embankment here but that wasn't due to speeds..that was due to another "influencing" factor if u will...This wasn't my dept i will add.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by KVFDCAPTAIN21
Lew Lets Just Say I Can Run and Still Be First There...So Maybe 20 Seconds at 50 km/h

And Fire our Officers which include Safetys,Constables,Lt;s and Capts Can Have a Light but No Sirens and Chiefs Can Have Light And Sirens. But Nowheres i'm quite Sure Anywheres do u Have the rights to legally Break the Speed Limits..Its More Of A Given..But Yes I Am Known When Comin from Work by POV can be to the hall in a minute and 20 roughly and its regularly a 2 min drive...

First off, your grammar is horrible........ Looks like July36's.....

And yes, it is legal for those in OH to "break the speed limit". I'm not saying I always condone it, but it happens. In OH, you are considered an emergency vehicle, if you are using proper lighting and audible warning devices. Same as a Police car, ambulance, or fire truck. I will have to look later to post the section of the Ohio revised code that applies........

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

Thanks Mr.Hart(English Teacher) from my grammar..Since when is this a Grammar Competition. And If You Knew Where i'm From You'd Know Why I Talk Like I do..The people of my province aren't exactly known for good speech.


And secondly Ohio Must Be Different because i know here in Canada we are lucky the officers mentioned can have lights in POV.Thank god we have a good town councill and hook ups with province house..But I know anywheres in canada By Law even Emergency Vehicles are legally not to break the speed limit even when full code enroute.Same with Officers in POV...Its just more of a given..So Yahs Got A Good Deal Down Where Your Are

[arhaney]

My part of the world allows 15 mph over the posted limit if conditions allow. The only trouble that we have ever had is not getting out of the way of the sheriff officer's patrol car!!!!

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

Our Motor Vehicles Act States Only "Fire Dept Vehicles" not POVS can exceed with Due Regard..Yet One oF My Operators was given hell for goin 40 over in Town @ 3am??? But In Regards To FF's In POV regardless Of Your having lights and sirens we are still not allowed...So Ours Is More Of A Privillage

[firenresq77]

Thanks Mr.Hart(English Teacher) from my grammar..Since when is this a Grammar Competition. And If You Knew Where i'm From You'd Know Why I Talk Like I do..The people of my province aren't exactly known for good speech.

That's not an excuse........ Speaking and typing are 2 different things. You don't see people from Georgia come on here talking about putting erl in their far trucks, do you???????? Hope you don't write your fire reports or patient care reports like this.......

And secondly Ohio Must Be Different because i know here in Canada we are lucky the officers mentioned can have lights in POV.Thank god we have a good town councill and hook ups with province house..But I know anywheres in canada By Law even Emergency Vehicles are legally not to break the speed limit even when full code enroute.Same with Officers in POV...Its just more of a given..So Yahs Got A Good Deal Down Where Your Are

And yes, it is different here in OH. That's the point I was trying to get across to you.

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

Excuse Me Then..

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

And Most People Type The Way They Talk....Or At Least Most I know

[KVFDCAPTAIN21]

Ok This Seemed Like A Good Chat Topic....Guess I Didn't Think About it...fire...my bad for p**sing you off..

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by KVFDCAPTAIN21
Ok This Seemed Like A Good Chat Topic....Guess I Didn't Think About it...fire...my bad for p**sing you off..

No, no. You didn't **** me off......... Not at all........

[Steamer]

posted by firenresq77:I will have to look later to post the section of the Ohio revised code that applies........

I couldn't get the link to work, so here's the law from the Ohio Revised Code.

§ 4511.24. Emergency vehicles excepted from speed limitations.
The prima-facie speed limitations set forth in section 4511.21 of the Revised Code do not apply to emergency vehicles or public safety vehicles when they are responding to emergency calls and are equipped with and displaying at least one flashing, rotating, or oscillating light visible under normal atmospheric conditions from a distance of five hundred feet to the front of the vehicle and when the drivers thereof sound audible signals by bell, siren, or exhaust whistle. This section does not relieve the driver of an emergency vehicle or public safety vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons using the street or highway.

[firenresq77]

Thanks for having me covered, Steamer.......

[SMCAPT7]

Everyone should live by the rules I learned from a old chief when I started 23 years ago.

He said

1). " you are no good to the homeowner or me if you get in an accident responding to a call. I now have to worry about you how you are instead of the incident at hand"

2). " you did not cause the incident so it's stupid to get hurt or killed driving like a madman to get there"

3). " remember it's your safety you should think about when doing this job, go with your gut and question when something doesn't look or feel right and your main mission is to come back to the station with your complete crew with everyone all right"

I always remember these words when responding and I tell my drivers to slow down when I don't feel right about the conditions or weather.