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    Default Eat Stress

    Has anyone ordered the www.eatstress.com packages to get hired as a firefighter? did it help?

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    Default I know one guy it helped

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    Good one Mikey
    "We shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them in New York City."

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    what just happend?

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    what just happend?

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    Default Really???

    Hmmm...Considering I have seen Capt. Bob Smith's
    article PUBLISHED in FIREHOUSE MAGAZINE plus
    on Firehouse.com and NOTHING from Mikey, it is
    a sure bet that Capt.Bob might, just might have
    some smarts??? I think so.

    I havent purchased his FF oral program, BUT have
    seen it and it is very motivating and I am 100%
    sure it could help you out some where. Unless
    you are scoring constantly in the top bracket
    of every test, I am guessing you or anyone else
    could use some help.

    My story- I reviewed Bob Smith promotional
    article in Firehouse Magazine. And on a Captains
    test, I came out #5 out of 35 applicants.
    I owe a lot of it to his insight.

    Hey, you may not need some help or a packet.
    But then again, maybe the other guy/girl wants
    the job morst than you and willing to take that
    extra step for that extra tool.

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    Default Re: I know one guy it helped

    Originally posted by MIKEYLIKESIT
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    Amen, brother. It took about 4 complaints, challenging this guy in an open forum and getting the webteam mad at me to get this guy tone down his direct marketing campaign. The stuff he sells you can see for free on Monster.com.

    And if this is the litmus test, you WILL find me published.

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    I'm not suggesting that Captain Bob doesn't offer valid insights. His advice may be worth much more than you pay. I've read some of his published work and don't find any fault in what he has to say.

    But it's a simple economic fact that Captain Bob benefits from your money. Can I help it if Mikey's rather succinct comment hit my funny bone?

    (Still chuckling, BTW)
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    Default Easy Bou....

    It was all meant in fun.
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    Lightbulb I knew Bou would come to Bob's defense

    Look Bou, we all know you truly believe in Capt Bob's programs because you promote them almost as much as he does. Fair enough, you are just trying to help your Brother FF I guess. But considering that he monopolizes (sp?) the Hiring & Employment forums couldnt we contain his advertisement to that arena. Honestly, I am getting sick of hearing about acing the oral boards and that "slogan" of Bob's (you all know the one I mean) every time the words "job" or "test" come up in here. Just my opinion, my apologies if it offends anyone. -46

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    It looks like a good programs, however, I do have one nagging thought. Why would he link to a site that openly promotes a system to defeat a polygraph?

    I used the system my dad told me about to pass the poly. Don't lie.

    Something to think about.
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    Check out the thin skin on CALFFBOU.

    Why the contempt for MIKEY'S valid point?

    Clearly Capt Bob has a financial interest in the program. That is why he SELLS it.
    "We shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them in New York City."

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    Jesse,
    I am sure there is information in his program that could help you, just like there is information at any library that can too. His just seems to change the words from business terms to fire terms. Capt. Bob runs a business....good for him... I wish him all the success.

    Calffbou,
    You should come lighten up and laugh a little. I understand your just protecting a fellow brother from Cali. I guess someone has to. I hope you laugh at work at least. I mean really...you wear a plastic helmet with a nomex shirt/jacket and carry a 1 1/2 to a structure fire. Now laugh .... I busting your balls.
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    Why bust Capt Bob's cookies when he posts for the best interest of our fellow brothers? If anyone has found valuable information elsewhere, terrific. You're doing better financially than someone else who purchased something. Why do bookstores offer so many How To's out there from cooking to sex to basketweaving, when this information is certainly on the web for anyone who chooses to look? Furthermore, don't most of us offer our knowledge in plumbing, electrical, carpentry, or landscaping to our fellow brothers when someone asks a question? Don't want to buy a package to better yourself in this field? You're not a bad person. As far as I can see, direct marketing has stopped on Firehouse & any reference to a website merely backs up discussion that he's added his insight & experience to. I'm reminded of an idea that "if you're not with me, you're against me." Someone can help ME with the hiring process? I want to be with him & not against him.
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    I did not start this thread for a fight about Capt Bob.

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    I don't think that anybody here wanted to start a fight. It started off with a joke, and a true one. Capt. Bob has a vested interest in Eat Stress. It is his business, just as many of us have jobs off duty. No one is disputing that. Some people took exception to that. It happens. My question still stands.

    Why does he link to a site which primary focus is on the defeat of polygraph tests. That seems to be a bit unethical to me.
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    Originally posted by kghemtp
    Why bust Capt Bob's cookies when he posts for the best interest of our fellow brothers? If anyone has found valuable information elsewhere, terrific. You're doing better financially than someone else who purchased something. Why do bookstores offer so many How To's out there from cooking to sex to basketweaving, when this information is certainly on the web for anyone who chooses to look? Furthermore, don't most of us offer our knowledge in plumbing, electrical, carpentry, or landscaping to our fellow brothers when someone asks a question? Don't want to buy a package to better yourself in this field? You're not a bad person. As far as I can see, direct marketing has stopped on Firehouse & any reference to a website merely backs up discussion that he's added his insight & experience to. I'm reminded of an idea that "if you're not with me, you're against me." Someone can help ME with the hiring process? I want to be with him & not against him.
    I certainly have no problem with someone who runs a business as a consultant and looks to better himself, as well as better the fire service. My problem, and one that I fought with the WT about, is that he blatantly broke the TOS by direct marketing his wares in the Forums. This issue was dealt with and I no longer care about that aspect.

    I agree, that it is totally unethical to promote the "defeat" of a polygraph. While it is illegal (yes, a criminal offense) to try to make someone take a polygraph as a condition of employment, it is a process that we frequently use in the criminal investigation field. The bottom line is you CAN'T defeat the polygraph on any consistent basis.

    The polygraph is not a "lie detector". The polygraph is an instrument which measures involuntary biological reactions (respiration, BP, pulse, galvonic skin response, etc.). It is based on an in-depth interview of the subject by the operator, pre-test questions and a pre-test exam. The subject is then polygraphed on a relevant issue. The polygram (the chart produced by the polygraph) is then interpreted by the operator. If the operator sees indications of deceptive reaction on the polygram, the operator is supposed to interview the subject again and seek a reasno for the reaction. Sometimes it is information the subject forgot to mention, sometimes one of the questions is worded in a certain manner that bothered the subject, whatever. After that, the operator interprets the entire test and issues his OPINION as to whether the subject was being deceptive. The machine is merely a tool.

    There are many, many issues about the polygraph that are subject to great debate. Most of the issues deal with the operator, not the machine. What those sites don't tell you, is that operators are also schooled on these "techniques" to defeat the polygraph. They are easily recognizable by a skilled operator. If an operator sees one of these techniques-you fail. If you are telling the truth, why try to defeat the machine?

    I do not want to statr a polygraph debate. I am merely piointed out why I believe it is unethical to refer candidtaes to these sites.

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    Whew...Ok where to start...

    Yes- I am going to defend Capt. Bob OR ANY ONE OF YOU
    as well who does free work to help others. (Hmmm...
    Kinda like doing that Firefighter-public-service-
    thing.)

    Yes, Bob does run a business, but gives you a lot
    of knowledge and help FOR FREE. He has an 800 #.
    He will answer your call, call you back and give
    you some direction.

    Thin skin? I dont think so. I am straight up and
    call it like I see it.

    No, I dont work for him or think any product should
    be shoved down your neck.

    BOTTOM LINE- How many FREE websites are out there
    to help YOU to pursue a FF career? Not many? And
    where do you get an 800 line to call a Firehouse
    article writer for advice? Rare. If so, please
    step up and help vs. stepping up to be a clown.
    New people are constantly coming in here looking
    for help and information. How about instead
    of being a jerk or making fun of the subject, dont
    be so selfish and help out alittle??? I am sure
    someone has helped you get where you are in the
    fire service.
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    Default LIGHTEN UP BOU X II

    Easy Big Fella. We "Jerks" and "Clowns" are not as "SELFISH" as you think we are. (Or dumb)
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    CALFFBOU

    Time to switch to Sanka pal.
    "We shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them in New York City."

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    Originally posted by Mulldog
    Calffbou,I mean really...you wear a plastic helmet with a nomex shirt/jacket and carry a 1 1/2 to a structure fire.
    This might be a little late, but I have to state I am
    forced to wear a heavy traditional helmet at my career
    job and we flow 1.75 line. And I wear PBI gold, not
    nomex. Geezz...you pinned me wrong on that whole slam.

    And I dont drink coffee, so no Sanka, thank you.

    Please understand that out here, EVERYONE and their
    Mom and dog want to be a Firefighter. For every 1 job,
    there are atleast 500+ applicants. So here, getting an
    edge, any edge is best. I know 1st hand that the oral
    board is where you close the deal. If you decide to
    wing it or think it is like your interview at Burger
    King, you would be just wasting your time. I honestly
    dont care if you use Capt. Bob or not. I dont care who
    or what you use since I got my career position. I just
    throw out the info. I know. Because when it comes to
    getting a paid job here, you need all/any help you can
    get.

    So JESSE- What have you researched or decided? Did you
    get any help towards pursuing a FF career?

    Please fill us in...Bou
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