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    Default Concealed handguns - What do you do?

    Ohio just passed the concealed handguns law.

    Trying to find SOP's from departments from other states that already carry.

    What to do if a gun is found during transport?

    Lock system for the gun?

    Are all patients checked prior to loading in Medic?



    Any advise or SOP's you may have would be greatly appreciated.

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    Default Concealed weapons

    Refer to post in EMS forums.

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    pardon me sir ................... but I believe we are all over here
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    No wonder he is lost your link doesn't work.

    http://cms.firehouse.com/forums2/sho...cealed+weapons
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    wow and that was a copy and paster !!!!!!! thanks ! I wouldnt wanna be misquoted.
    IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT !
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    I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
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    Even lacking a concealed weapons law...you'll still find a lot of people carrying. And the police, like of all of us, are not infallible in their searches.

    If the patient is concious and tells us, a Trooper secures the weapon.

    If you find one while transporting, remove it carefully if you can (depends on the mental state of the patient, is it jammed against the cot rail, etc), preferably still in the holster -- most "waistbelt" holster just slide clip on. I say mental status 'cause if the patient seems a little, um, unstable and you feel trying to disarm him will set him off use your code for the PD to meet you at the hospital. In our area, one option certainly would be to radio the dispatch center "Um, disptach we'd like to arrange an intercept with the 55's at their station." -- and divert our response to the State Police barracks (55 being the local code for police). Consider talking them into a better restraint, "Sir, could you place your arm down here for a second so I can take your b/p? Ok, just putting this strap around your wrist to hold it still, make's it easier for us" then get the 2nd restraint by their elbow in place before they realize you've just secured their "gunside" arm to the rail on the cot. If you do remove it, pop it in a fold of a towel for padding and place it in a compartment (facing away from everyone) to hand over to the police at the hospital.

    Don't screw around with a firearm you're not actually familiar with...and be realistic about your working knowledge of firearms. Guns don't go off on their own...but if you try to disarm one you're not familiar with there's a good chance you'll discharge it. And you're only trying to disarm 'cause your ego told your a guy and know how to do this stuff. It stayed on the patient without going off, it'll sit padded in a towel without going off.
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