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    Default Extrication Tech or Specialist Certification

    I would like to know if there is a national certification for vehicle auto extrication? I know every state has standards and req. What training or contact must be made to reach the certification of tech or specialist. Thanks, T. Sims / Gravel Ridge Fire & Rescue

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    Generally each state or agency creates their own or follows established criteria regarding specialties. I suggest you take a look at NFPA 1670, Chapter 6. This is a voluntary standard for Technical Rescue and lists certain objectives.
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    NJ allows anyone who wants to call themself certified to be certified. Extrication doesn't fall under EMS or Fire certifications here. There is not even a certification as Extrication instructor in NJ. I have seen people teaching classes that have never used a tool. Any Tom, Dick, or Harry walking down the street can run a class.
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    New York State has Accident Victim Extrication Course which I have gone through twice, Firehouse magazine keeps having an ad for sometime of National Hurst Tool training I'll hafta look and get back to y'all
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    as Bones says...
    Extrication doesn't fall under EMS or Fire certifications here.
    So in order to keep us (semi) safe from the lawyers, my squad has accepted the fact that we need to be NFPA compliant. The cost & training is not an issue, what is is the fact I cannot find documentation on NFPA standards for just Vehicle rescue alone, we have a dedicated technical rescue team for everthing else in my town but we, the BLS squad does Extrication.

    What I am looking for is if anybody has documentation for NFPA compliance, would you kindly send it my way.

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    National Certification NFPA 1006. Though not strictly vehicle, it is vehicle and industrial rescue certification plus it also includes water rescue, rope, etc. PA is currently evaluating their new vehicle rescue cert class which will be according to NFPA 1006. WV is also developing their new program under the same National program.

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    Get the NFPA book for 1006. It is for rescue tecnician. It covers what they deem to be the new standard. It is a couple of years old now. We in Missouri have built our courses from this new standard as it came available.

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    I got no idea what Ohio says ........'77 or #10 ?
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    Don't believe there are ANY vehicle extrication certifications in the State of Ohio..........

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    What is generally issued after completing a formal extrication program is a "certificate" of "attendance" not certification for a motor vehicle extrication program at a certain skills level. Basic skills should be not less than 12-hours, most would agree that 16-hour programs should be part of the standard.

    NFPA Standars: Unfortunately there are no extrication skills for FF-I, it is only at the FF-II skills level that extrication addressed. NFPA 1670 Standard on "Operations and Training for Technical Rescue Incidents" 1999 Edition, is for technical rescue specialist. Chapter-6 of the standard pertains not only to vehicle extrication, but machinery as well. In addition, Chapter-6 is also linked to other chapters within the NFPA 1670.

    I think we all would like to raise the bar for the level of training, will certification help, perhaps. Extrication certification has been tossed about for decades, especially when there is rescue resulting in a tragedy.

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    I think we all would like to raise the bar for the level of training
    I think we'd all agree with this Ron. As I posted above, in NJ, to teach an Extrication class and give a certificate requires nothing. There are many that offer classes and claim to be certified extrication instructors, yet no such thing exists in NJ. I have been researching this with NJ DOH about running extrication classes for CEU credits. Send them an outline and documentation on the instructor and your good to go. I asked what kind of documentation for an extrication instructor? Still waiting for them to get back as they don't know. If you are an instructor at any fire/ems academy, you are ok to teach extrication according to them. So if you are a CPR instructor at an academy, you are Ok to teach extrication!

    It's a bad thing.
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    sorry to dig up a slightly old thread, i was searching and came across this page. bones, not sure if you ever found a class but currently the morris county fire academy offers a vehicle extrication 1 (40 hours) and vehicle extrication 2 (20 hours)...VE1 includes 8 ceu's for emt's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firenresq77 View Post
    Don't believe there are ANY vehicle extrication certifications in the State of Ohio..........
    There IS certification for Rescue Technician, but extrication is just part of it. It covers rope rescue, confined space, water rescue, etc. I think attendance at an establised course like Howell Rescue Systems' Crash Course would be a good start though.

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    Tarrant College Fire Academy in Ft. Worth, TX conducts a 40-hour Vehicle & Machinery Rescue Technician course four times each year. Cars, 18-wheelers, bus vehicles, and trains are props used in the class. In Texas, there is no actual vehicle rescue technician certification because the TX Fire Commission has not created a curriculum for it as of yet. So what Tarrant College Fire Academy did is create their course the address the competencies of 1006 and 1670 when it comes to vehicle and machinery topics. This is a good way to validate the skills training that you do. If no certification exists within your state, then during deposition, you show your drill sheets that document that the NFPA competencies were addressed.

    I worked on the team that wrote the Tarrant College course materials. There are 14 skill sheets that are used in that course to document skill completion. If interested in looking at these, email me at Rmoore@firehouse.com and I can send you the Word document with these skill sign-offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmoore View Post
    Tarrant College Fire Academy in Ft. Worth, TX conducts a 40-hour Vehicle & Machinery Rescue Technician course four times each year. Cars, 18-wheelers, bus vehicles, and trains are props used in the class. In Texas, there is no actual vehicle rescue technician certification because the TX Fire Commission has not created a curriculum for it as of yet. So what Tarrant College Fire Academy did is create their course the address the competencies of 1006 and 1670 when it comes to vehicle and machinery topics. This is a good way to validate the skills training that you do. If no certification exists within your state, then during deposition, you show your drill sheets that document that the NFPA competencies were addressed.

    I worked on the team that wrote the Tarrant College course materials. There are 14 skill sheets that are used in that course to document skill completion. If interested in looking at these, email me at Rmoore@firehouse.com and I can send you the Word document with these skill sign-offs.

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